Force Meld

[Meyer]

In OF it's mentioned that force meld is hard to perform and can be dangerous. in NJO series there is no mention about this (as far as I know). even the knights can do it easily and there is no side effect. does anyone know any explanation of this? or is it's dangers mentionein some of the NJO books?

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

In the Dark Nest trilogy it says that the Jedi suspected the reason for the close bond of some of the Jedi Knights was because of prolonged use of it.

[sarcronis]

Maybe the reason it isn't in the NJO, is that the writers hadn't came up with it yet.

[Scarecrow63]

Its in their, just not with the added danger level

Of course Outbound Flight came out after NJO

[sarcronis]

I meant that they hadn't came up with the danger, and as you pointed out OF did come out after NJO.

[Scarecrow63]

That sounds weird, they hadn't come up with the danger yet, even though thats probably what happened

[Slornie]

It could just be that the OJO was more cautious in usage of the Force, and thus they overrated the dangers attached to the Force Meld..  In the NJO, there was no knowledge of any danger from use of the Force Meld, and no record of such issues from OJO would have survived Palpatine's purge.

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

Wait, so the Jedi had to know when to have difficulty doing something?

[Slornie]

No.. the OJO knew that there were dangers (such as the personality bending/mental bond from prolonged use) associated with using the Force Meld (as explained in OF), but they overrated them (to such an extent that only very experienced Masters would even attempt the Meld).  In the NJO, the records from the OJO were for the most part unavailable (presumably destroyed in the Jedi Purge or subsequent events), therefore they did not associate any dangers with the ability when they rediscovered/developed it.

The other explanation is that they are two seperate but closely related abilities..

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

But it said it was hard to maintain. The lowliest Jedi did it in YVW.

[Meyer]

maybe tthe jedi of new jedi order were stronger than those of old jedi order. But I find it hard to believe.

[Slornie]

But it said it was hard to maintain. The lowliest Jedi did it in YVW.

Maybe it was learned difficulty - it was impressed upon them how hard it was to maintain, which created a sort of mental block that made it hard for them..

[Meyer]

that's a propable reason in my mind.

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

The Jedi can make other people think things, I dont think right-minded Jedi have mental blocks.

[Scarecrow63]

Sure they can, probably the best example is when Luke trys to lift his x-wing, but can't because he thinks he can't

[Slornie]

The Jedi can make other people think things, I dont think right-minded Jedi have mental blocks.

It doesnt have to be a "physically" applied mental block from another Jedi, i was more thinking in terms of indoctrination through the Jedi's training - what they get taught is enforced solidly enough to be ingrained in their minds, to the extent that they block their own potential...

[Scarecrow63]

Yeah, if you're taught something is hard or impossible and dangerous, you're not just gonna go do it

[GrndAdmrlPellaeon]

Yeah, but they did do it and they did have trouble, therefore story plot conflict.