« on: December 29, 2017, 09:36:51 AM »
I’m not even going to address the dozen old EU nitpicks from the first part of the post (all of the cloaking devices in old EU were destroyed and hyperspacing tracking could be done by an R2D2 unit, there), or really anything else.
I’m just going to say that I’m glad this movie got rid of all of Episode 7’s “mystery box” crap with Rey’s parents and Snoke to turn Rey and Kylo into actually decent characters. I argue Rey is a mary sue in TFA (the title doesn’t help), but in TLJ she has actual difficulties doing what she needs to do, and there’s a struggle. The outcome is more or less predetermined, but it’s a good story never the less with her.
Oh and Kylo Ren isn’t as ridiculous in this movie, so I’m happy with that.
On the other hand, TLJ has probably ruined the overall trilogy in some way. I’m not sure how, but when 9 comes out and well, I don’t put much stock in JJ, it’ll probably be like 8 never happened and thus we get a really awkward overall sequel trilogy.
Actually, on second thought, there’s three things from the first page I wanted to address. Turtle225’s points.
1. Kylo still idolizing Darth Vader. To give two rather basic examples, in the real world, people still idolize leaders who betrayed their own causes at the very end. Plenty of people root for Darth Vader despite his apperances as Anakin Skywalker in the prequels and his redemption at the end of RotJ. They admire a ruthless, ordered rule. We even had a thread debating Galatic Empire terrorism versus Galatic New Republic terrorism, and plenty of people chose the Empire. But this is fictional, and so some could ignore it. However, Neo Nazis still hold up the Third Reich as a perfect world, and idolize Hilter despite A. Him being of Jewish descent (a hypocrsisy not unlike worshiping Vader as a Sith). B. Him commiting suicide and failing his goals in the end due to paranioa and madness effectively strangulating his ability to reason.
2. Rebuilding the Rebellion from a dozen people on the Falcon. To give a more low key example, in America there have been plenty of people who came from nothing, created a company, lost it all, and rebuilt the organization themselves to suceed on the second try. There have been others who never suceeded on that second try due to huge amounts of debt, but it is possible to rebuild an organization out of nearly nothing.
3. Luke’s instinct leading him to strike down Ben. Yes an utter bastardization of Luke Skywalker from Episode 6, but you have to keep a few things in mind. Luke saw all the evil Vader and Sidious had done to the galaxy, blowing up planets, killing families, slaughtering not only Luke’s friends in the Rebellion, but his mentor, his family, and his sister’s home planet. In every way of his life, Luke was defined by the evil of the Sith. So when he saw a possible future where Ben continued that same dark legacy, his instinct goaded him into doing whatever was nessecary to prevent it. The same instinct Palpatine goaded him into using in RotJ to open him up to the dark side. He resisted, of course, just as he did in Episode6, but it did have consquence, just like how in Episode 6 it left him open to the dark side.