Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Meyer on August 30, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
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When do you think that USA will fall and loose it's position as super power?
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It will never fall!
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Within this century, maybe even next 50 years.
It won't crumble, it will just be reduced to France, England, or Germany status.
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But by what? Probably not another countries millitary power, We're the country that NEEDS medication...See now, We nuked Japan and then said "We're Sorry".
Most likely it will collapse upon itself.
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i think it will "die" within 20 years with a second civil war over some debate that is inevitable through democracy
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Probably cause Bush's steak wasnt still Moo'ing or something Childish.
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I think our economic problems and military over-extension will cause us problems in the long run.
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Now would be a good time for a smiley shaking his head in disappointment. You guys need to stop complaining about the USA. Its the most democratic country in the world. It has the most freedom and all you do is whine and complain about "Bush this, Bush that," "Iraq this, Iraq that." The USA will never fall as long as it is free.
I think our economic problems and military over-extension will cause us problems in the long run.
Our military "over- extension is better than nothing. If we had never gone to Iraq or Viet Nam and the like you would all be complaining that we did nothing.
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I seriously doubt America will die off any time soon, politicians come and go, wars come and go, but the US is just too strong to die off any time soon
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Im with you my brothers. A military can not be too powerful as long as we maintain control, and if a lib is elected then we wont maintain control.
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We should have helped vietnam be a democratic nation when they asked for our help against the French, not let it fall to the soviets. The vietnam war was also something we should not have done. We supported a dictatorship against another one, the only thing in it for us was the guy we were helping was for a free market, not communism.
We also should not have gone into Iraq. Period, frankly Iraq wasn't a problem after the first gulf war and the time Clinton bombed it.
Sorry, just defending the accusation, now back on topic.
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What accusation?
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Our military "over- extension is better than nothing. If we had never gone to Iraq or Viet Nam and the like you would all be complaining that we did nothing.
That one.
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Hes right though, most the people that complain about going would be complaining about not going
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If that was US bombing youve got alot to learn. If we wanted to (Im not saying we should), we could annhilate Iraq and most other countries within one week without nukes. That was basically a "Please dont hurt me." Bombing is like London in WWII.
Our military "over- extension is better than nothing. If we had never gone to Iraq or Viet Nam and the like you would all be complaining that we did nothing.
That one.
I meant to put in (not so much Viet Nam).
Hes right though, most the people that complain about going would be complaining about not going
Thanks.
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In what position are you to tell me or other people against the wars what they would think? There are so many people that said NO before each war but for the most part people didn't care enough to really speak out.
Do any of you think American will fall from it's position as #1, or do you guys really think that the US will stay the most powerful nation in the world indefinitely?
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Hes right though, most the people that complain about going would be complaining about not going
Liberals and left wings always have to complain. If Gore or Kerry had been elected theyd be doin the macarena. If they lose an election they will complain about whatever the right wing is doing.
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And the right is any different?
You just see us as whining because it's not your point of view, I'm sure you'd see your complaints of Obama, Edwards, or Hillary as perfectly reasonable.
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Yeah i have my complaints, but i wouldnt call them evil and curse them and root for the oppposing side if they enter a war.
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Lol, we're not rooting for the opposing side. I want our troops home from Iraq, we're putting their dedication to waste. I hate to say it but George Bush is putting our resources and to waste while loosing the support of the world.
You would criticize Bill Clinton for cheating on his wife, but not George Bush for getting us into a war without a victory plan?
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What do you mean putting their dedication to waste? Its theire job to fight, they are the army, and i know soldiers that volunteer to go to Iraq
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There are so many that volunteer and Iraq wasn't a threat, now many are disillusioned, several thousand are dead or injured, and many more are tired and over-worked!
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No, i know people that volunteered to go 3 months ago
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Although we may have gone in there for the wrong reason, nukes, Saddam needed to be taken out, and the Iraqi people still need the U.S. troops. Not only to fight, but to rebuild after Saddam's reign.
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The people you know are not everyone, the military has had trouble reaching its recruitment goals ever since major combat operations "ended."
Sorry, for some reason I mistook Noret for Nezill and merged the posts....-Arbiter
another point: do to the Iraq "war" America has lost several allies and world support, America will fall and if it continues its current path it will do so soon and its not necessarily #1 anymore china could probably beat the U.S. if it tried, and remember MAD is still pretty much still here
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It wont fall, whos threatening the US?
And i doubt China could win, it doesnt have the logistics to beat America, sure they have a gazillion troops, but they cant get them over here
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We might die cause we complained about how Immortal we are...
I mean, You cant put any innuendo on TV without a Concerned-Mentopause House Wife bitching about it.
America, as well as being the Fattest, also contains the Whiniest, bitchiest people around...For Example, A few of them are on this Forum...You know who you are.
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Lot's of post after my last vist. USA will fall someday. but I doubt it will be within the next 100-150 years. And by fall I mean that it will keep it's area and it's 51 states or how many there are. unless some of them break away. And someday their presidential elections are so obviously rigged (they have covered it this far somehow) and the two or more candidates will storm on each others throats. then the decline begins. slowly at first but getting faster all the time it is surpassed by other countries in terms of weapon manpower and money. and one day they will realize that they are nothing and have no power on anything. And that day will come. USA falls. it is INEVITABLE!
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First off, there is 50 states, and your idea seems to be one of the most plausible I have heard.
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Unfortuneately Meyers right, at the rate politicians are going, they'll be so stupid they wont be able to add 2+2
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And to a comment that USA will never fall. Can you give an example of a country that has lasted to this day as the largest, the most powerful country of the world. and I mean a long time.
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I was joking. And Scarecrow, you mean they know how to add?
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I meant that they will be so stupid they wont know how to add
And im not saying US will never fall, but most likely when it does, so will everyone else
And the roman empire lasted for 1500 years and it was constantly at war for survival, i see a long road ahead for the US
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yes but in the time of Roman empire and it's greatness they didn't have weapons of mass-destruction. But still I also see a long road before USA is either destroyed or just reduced to a smaller status (which is more likely). You still have some 1000+ years perhaps. but who knows. I mean there have been lots of wars in the last decades. not big but neither war roman wars after Augustinus came to power. just little border problems. american wars in Afghanistan and Iraq can be counted on this category in my opinion. but just wait long enough and there will be someone who come and beat you.
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The way i see though, fighting that can threaten a major nation is pretty much over, now that nukes are here, the only possibility of a major nation getting beat other than all out nuclear war, is by major terrorism
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or by politics or hippies who claim that eating meat is a murder.
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Eating meat isn't murder!!!! Oh my God!
Just kidding. Politics will probably destroy the U.S.
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and inflation.
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yes but in the time of Roman empire and it's greatness they didn't have weapons of mass-destruction. But still I also see a long road before USA is either destroyed or just reduced to a smaller status (which is more likely). You still have some 1000+ years perhaps. but who knows. I mean there have been lots of wars in the last decades. not big but neither war roman wars after Augustinus came to power. just little border problems. american wars in Afghanistan and Iraq can be counted on this category in my opinion. but just wait long enough and there will be someone who come and beat you.
1000+ years? maybe i suppose though highly unlikely and at a defenat reduced staus beside mostly reliable sources say it will all end in 2012
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Oh yeah, those reliable sources, forgot about those
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sarcasm i hear?
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You must remeber the Roman "Empire" became a dictatorship and that is what killed it. For those that beleive in God and/or Jesus, I beleive that this is his nation. Now that Israel has changed (although the Jews are still his people: hence their success).
As long as the US remains truly free, it will survive.
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just because something is a dictatorship doesn't mean your screwed in the long run
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usually it does.
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Rome like stated lived 1500 years(more than most countries) china has been a dictatorship for thousands of years medieval and Napoleonic period European country went on for hundreds of years, Hawaii had nice dictatorship until American colonists over threw it(shall i continue), you have had that idea put in your brain by American democracy you must look to history
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Remember kiddies, the US has only been a superpower for 63 years...
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your point?
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So what? unless you are saying it has a long road ahead
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I'm reminding everyone that the US has not been #1 ever since 1776.
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I still dont get your point.....
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Does anyone?
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You must remeber the Roman "Empire" became a dictatorship and that is what killed it.
As long as the US remains truly free, it will survive.
Do you have any idea how wrong you are? Roman Empire wasn't destroyed because of "dictatorship" as you say. Dictator was used by romans hundreds of years as a rank that gave one people power above all. His reign lasted for six months. It wasvery common to nominate a dictator when the city was in great danger. Later there was endless civil wars that would have destroyed the Roman Republic if Augustus hadn't taken power. After he was nominated Princeps, the first, he was never made an emperor. Thanks to Augustus and his reforms Rome was allowed to survive the next 400 years. Rome was destroyed by few main factors which are: inflation, barbarian hordes and because of personal problems. Rome WASN'T destroyed because of "dictators" who just ruined everything.
And your precious USA isn't very free at the moment. I think you have already begun your downfall.
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US is pretty damn free, more so than anyone else probably, and what makes you think its on its downfall? Because we're stuck fighting terrorists in Iraq? I've got news for you, the US is way too powerful.
And im not just talkin about military, im talkin economy and such too
You may say "but the US has all that debt, its economy is shit", that wont bring down the country because the American people have money
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how are we so free compared to every other western nation?, we not umber powerful we've been stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan for several years and really haven't got anywhere in a few years in both, don't over estimate the power of capitalism *points to unemployment and poverty level*
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the usa will fall by fat the USA has a lot of fat people many children in usa dont know anything important the usa is crumbling slowly almost unnoticably at the bottom
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how is fat going to kill the USA????
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fattest people on earth live in USA. And you haven't been able to quell a few rebels on Iraq although you are so "superpower". Not very convincing.
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very very true
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Unemployment isnt that bad, its not getting worse, it fluctuates a percentage or two every few years, if anything its on the decline
And Iraq and Afghanistan isnt really a place to test military might, since they dont really have any objectives except to walk around and wait for them to shoot you
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fattest people on earth live in USA. And you haven't been able to quell a few rebels on Iraq although you are so "superpower". Not very convincing.
so? whats that have to do with anything, could any other nation do any better? i doubt it
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the trouble in Iraq is that its not a war anymore, its more of security job
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But american soldiers still die. Can you give me a good reason why american soldiera still fight and die in Iraq? not that I care but I just wonder that why the fuck do you stay there being killed.
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i agree at least uk is pulling out
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I know this sounds really bad but better a US soldier die than more US civilians
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isnt that a bit random
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I still dont get your point.....
Hes saying that we havent been Number 1 since we were Formed, How dense are you?
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I know this sounds really bad but better a US soldier die than more US civilians
How does the fact that american soldiers die in Iraq help to save american civilians? I don't see a connection there.
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To kalo, i still dont know what that has to do with the fall of the US
And to Meyer the terrorists over in Iraq and such are too busy hiding and shooting US troops to be able to hit the US itself
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I seriously doubt that any of those so called "terrorists" in Iraq would be able to hit USA. And if they could it would mean that your homeland security sucks. and for the use of word terrorist, you have to realize that to people in Iraq you are the terrorist.
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No, they have hit the US before, they could do it again
And to the people of Iraq we arent terrorists, we dont go around blowing them up and killing civilians, they do a good enough job of that themselves
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Excuse me Meyer? If they hit you then YOUR Homeland sucks, No ones perfect, thats why they call it a Sneak Attack...
And if we attacked you we can say you suck HAHA.
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now that you have destroyed their country and it's social structure. Would those people be able to blow themselves if you hadn't brought down saddams government? there wasn't daily bomb strikes back on those days. And Iraq has never made an terrorist attack on USA. or if it has when and where? And why would Iraq strike on Finland Kalo? you can say we suck even now if you want to.
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No, they werent blowing themselves up before, Saddam was just murdering his own people without explosives
Iraq maybe hasnt made an attack, but the terrorists that were in Iraq did
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No, they have hit the US before, they could do it again
those were you're words. and now you say that Iraq hasn't attacked USA. confusing. And in the time of saddams rule how can you know what he did? And don't give that crap that you wanted to help the people of Iraq because it's bullshit.
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Just cause we destroyed what WE think is there Frame of Power doesnt mean they cant attack us Dumbass.
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how can they attack you? you can't stop a single terrorist sell to attack you just because you fight in Iraq!
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Jesus, its apparently working isnt it?
And i know what Saddam did because he was executed for it
And stop accussing me for what America did, i had nothing to do with it, im not saying Bush went there for the Iraqi people, he went there for the US of A and im fine with that
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As if that post made any sense....
They can, Maybe its hard for YOU to understand it, What made you think they could attack us before 911? Theres many ways to get past Security...Or do they not teach that in Finland? Either way this Topic is getting out of hand, Locked.
I'M SORRY NORET, I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HOW AWESOME I AM.
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how did he go for the US of A they posed no threat
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He means that he went to stop attacks on the motherland. I agree with that but we are staying for the iraqi people. Speasking of which, if you think we are doing a bad job in Iraq then go ask the Iraqi people and their government who are extremely greatful.
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oh? you didnt hear that the prime minister wants us out? and if they like us so much why do they shoot at us?
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He means that he went to stop attacks on the motherland. I agree with that but we are staying for the iraqi people. Speasking of which, if you think we are doing a bad job in Iraq then go ask the Iraqi people and their government who are extremely greatful.
Except for the fact that there have been a greater number of attacks as the years go on and the lives of Iraqis got worse since then as well? Yeah, I bet you're right. They're real happy.
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Yep, your carcasm doesnt phase me. We got those dang terrorists out.
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How am I being sarcastic? Have you not actually read anything on the damn war?
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Yep, your carcasm doesnt phase me. We got those dang terrorists out.
we did? then why are we still there?(why do i keep hiting the modify button?)
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Out of their government.
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saddam was no terrorist and if anything there are more in the government now then before
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He was a damn Terrorist, he was killing his people off.
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So are you. death sentece is still in use in USA. And why don't you pull your forces out in Iraq? If you would leave now the country would fall in such a chaos that there would be no change in hell for them to concentrate doing terrorist attacks anywhere on the world. And american forces in Iraq doesn't stop terrorist attacks, by staying in Iraq you incourage them to kill themselves for freedom and Allah. You are helping them to justify their attacks. have you ever though of that?
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Oh, So the guy that Rapes and kills his Family and kills his next door Neighbor doesnt deserve to die for his Actions?
Yeah, I've thought of that.
Have you ever asked a Soldier who went there what they thought of it? I have, Said he'd go back in a heartbeat, He said he knew what he was doing and it WAS the right thing to do.
And if we leave we might just make them think they're winning, Ever think of that?
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but the war is over. and you won it. Bush said it on his speech. Bringing back your troops to home would proove that you have the guts to pull back. But you just don't have the guts to do it. you are afraid. And I think that not so many soldier would go there in the first place. and if they come to home I doubt they would want to go back to Iraq. some propably would want to but I think they are the minority. if Finland would join NATO and send troops to Iraq I would propably volunteer to go there.
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I am afraid? Excuse me? maybe you should word yourself a bit better, I'm not afraid of shit...And you DO NOT know anything, Go ask an Army guy like i have, i have asked around 7 if they'd go back and they said In a Heart Beat, You know nothing.
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We haven't been invaded by aliens so apparently SETA must be working, right?
You can't make a reasonable correlation between us not getting attacked, and us invading Iraq.
Jesus, its apparently working isnt it?
And i know what Saddam did because he was executed for it
And stop accussing me for what America did, i had nothing to do with it, im not saying Bush went there for the Iraqi people, he went there for the US of A and im fine with that
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I am afraid? Excuse me? maybe you should word yourself a bit better, I'm not afraid of shit...And you DO NOT know anything, Go ask an Army guy like i have, i have asked around 7 if they'd go back and they said In a Heart Beat, You know nothing.
you in my post refers to USA a hole. and as I said those wanting back is very likely the minority. And you said if you pull back you can't be attacked. that means you must be afraid of this possible but very unlikely attack.
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Do not put words in my mouth, I have not said this once Moron.
Why would i be afraid? you think i was afraid on Sept 11? No i wasnt, Infact now i think of it, it was a day like any other.
Possible Attack? anything is possible.
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however i believe that the entire iraq war should have ended when Husein was hung and kalo don't give our bold country a bad face to be frowned upon and the way your acting makes you sound like a moron.
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Do not put words in my mouth, I have not said this once Moron.
Why would i be afraid? you think i was afraid on Sept 11? No i wasnt, Infact now i think of it, it was a day like any other.
Possible Attack? anything is possible.
as I said earlier with the word "you" in my post I meant all american people. not just you! so who is the moron? if 9/11 was just like anyother day then why you always make so big deal of it?
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Then if you dont mean him Meyer, dont say you
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well most in here are americans so I refer to their nationality. and you should be able to understand that if I speak that "you should pull back from Iraq" that I don't mean anyone on here. because no one in here is in the Iraq. understand the context.
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Its still not good to refer to people by their 'nationality', i doubt most americans agree whith what happens in the stupid political world
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Regardless, we're responsible to some degree.
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yep. you should make it more obvious. now there are only some hippie groups openly against the war and occupation of Iraq.
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Cause nobody likes hippies
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true. I hope more americans who aren't hippies would show it openly that they are against the war.
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Im okay with some war
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are you okay with the war in Iraq? the war which usa will eventually lose.
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Well, its now turned into a war that can't be 'won' in the traditional sense.. since the aim is to set up a democratic government and a national security force capable of maintaining order in its own country, neither of which can be 'won' by killing the enemy.
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Yeah, when looking at it in a traditional sense, we already won, but we cant really win or lose now
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If the US pulled out now and left Iraq in its current situation (with the security issues, etc) they would lose face in the international community, since it would be seen to be running away from a 'problem' that they caused.
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they still wouldnt have lost the war though, just hurt their outlook or whatever
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What, exactly, would win the war?
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Im saying from the traditional military sense, the war is won, now they're dealing with the remaining guerillas
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What face do we have to lose?
And to the hippie comment by meyer: I highly doubt that the 2/3 of American citizens against the war are ALL hippies.
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I doubt 10% of them are
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well you have to realize that all I see in news pictures are hippies. I know that those pictures don't represent everyone who is against the war but they give you a picture that everyone who is against is a hippie.
And how would usa lose it's face by pulling out from iraq? in my opinion it would show that usa has the guts to admit that there is no point taking further casualties in a war that has no victor, only those how lose the least. besides I'm pretty sure that if american and it's allie troops would pull back most of the attacks would stop. Now that american forces stay in there I think they must be out of their mind. what's the point of staying in there? What does usa get from having it's soldiers killed in peace time in a foreign country where they are not welcome?
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Iraq's security force isnt in a position to take full control at the moment, so if the multinational force left now (and it is multinational, lets not forget there are other countries with soldiers deployed in Iraq), they would be leaving a kind of security vacuum, which could result in an increase in unrest rather than a decrease (although any attacks would not be directed at the multinational force).
Yes, it is true that the multinational forces are becoming less appreciated by the Iraqi people, but it isnt the average civilian performing the attacks, and the Iraqi government wants the multinational force to remain for the time being.
Isnt it better to let the military leaders on the ground in Iraq decide when the time is right to leave, since they are in a better position to understand the situation?
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yes. but I think that if the multinational force would leave now and then there would be those unrests you mention, Slornie, it would be all the same for usa. in anycase the terrorist would be too busy to strike on usa itself. and I would rather have 1000 terrorist/iraq "freedom fighter" dead than 1 american or any other soldier from those multinational forces in there.
And how about returning to topic? It seems that everytime there is a conversation about politics and USA, we somehow end up talking should usa and others pull their focrces out of Iraq.
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Magnet topic!
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i do so belive tyhat usa will fall the same way as communist russia
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I think thats probably impossible, the US is nothing like communist Russia
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o yes they are just a differt type of government
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give me something that they have in common then
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bush is just like stailin might as be the same person
and look at the amount of corruption and a totaly janked leagal system
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Are you kidding? Bush is nothing like Stalin, does Bush go around murdering millions of his own people? Or how bout killing other members of the government to stay in power
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oh really?
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(http://netninja.com/images/lj/ya_rly.jpg)
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Only thing similar I can think of is the corruption. I mean everyone knows there was a lot of corruption in Soviet Union. And it is pretty obvious that USA has it very much. Presidential Elections is perhaps the best example.
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Dude, Meyer you need to chill out with the conspiracy stuff
And corruption is unfortuneately a part of every government, just a flaw of human nature
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conspiracy? what conspiracy stuff? and there is no corrupiton in our government anymore. we got rid of those stupid hillbillies AKA keskusta.
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but i bet you there is still some corruption somewhere....no government is fully devoid of corruption it is human nature
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The conspiracy stuff is you thinking the presidential election is rigged
And no matter how hard you try, there will always be corruption, even though its not very influential
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oh really?(blames english teacher)
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well luckily, if there is corruption in our government it is very small. And what kind of an corruption are we speaking?
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it doesnt matter what type of corruption corruption is corruption either way...no matter how much u say there is no corruption there is always some
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and thank god for that!
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Why?
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With corruption I will someday take control of Finland and turn it to a military might that destroys Russia.
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And you get mad at the US for Iraq? wow
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At least we have a reason: they slaved us for century. and then those bastards attacked us twice without reason. But maybe we should attack sweden before russia. we could use them as slaves. and that would be war we couldn't lose.
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Someone needs to see a therapist
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bah. they just drug you.
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You're right, you need to see the men in white coats, they'll send you to a nice padded room
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as long as they feed me I don't mind. what most people don't realize is that life is too short for fighting and killing. You should just eat and drink and sleep. simple plesures easily accomplished. but now we have come a bit far from our topic.
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And if the US ever falls, its cause people have started to enjoy the eating one a little too much
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eating good food is one of the best thing in the world.
Yahoo I finely found a copy of Allegiance from one of our city libraries. I hope it comes to me soon.
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Eating food is good for the economy.
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Sure, for Mcdonalds, not so much for the cosumer who weighs 3000 pounds
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well you can exercise after your done eating. Nobody forces you to eat a lot and then just sit on the couch. I eat a lot and I move a lot.
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but most people dont
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luckily I ain't one of them. fatness will be the downfall of USA if they continue to eat like that.
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It is a problem, but not a big enough one to kill the US off, the problem will be they'll eat out the worlds food supply
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well you can always turn to cannibalizing. there is lots of people in Asia: 2/3 of world's poplation.
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Why go all the way to asia when a fat american is worth 5 asians?
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good point. USA USA USA!
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Well, atleast the fatness will be good for that one thing
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there is something good in everything.
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lol, if only i joined this discussion earlier...
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why can't you join now?
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kinda every possible subject related to the topic has been covered...lol. hmmm (trying to think of any left) have nuclear weapons been covered?
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no. but who would strike in USA with nukes?
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terrorists.
russian nuclear weapons could easily find their way into the hands of a terrorist group like al-qaeda. obviously, the U.S. will look for a country to blame for this and so will start world war 3 where the only things that will survive are cockroaches and me.
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why is it impossible for terrorists to get their hands in american made nukes? And why would USA blame russai or anyother country for the act of terrorists.
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after 9/11 america attacked afghanistan because terrorists were known to be there. same could happen in this scenario. and i chose russian nukes because they are just easier to get hold of at the moment.
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I'm not so sure. What is an easy way to steal a nuclear weapon? That's equally hard in russian and in usa.
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steal the parts through bribes and assemble it. not very hard, compared to nickin a pre-built one
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and you say you can't bribe a american to give you the parts, only russian?
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never said that...just russia has more parts than america and is currently suffering from mass poverty so it would be easier/cheaper to get it from russia.
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And Russia has a bad history of keeping track of their nukes
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true. but I still don't believe it is much harder to get one from usa.
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getting a bit off topic...i thought we were talking about the actual way USA could fall, not who takes better care of their nukes...(sorry if this is within boundaries for this forum, still adjusting)
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Russia's military is in big time decay, they've got nuke silos all over the place, half of them not even manned anymore, just sitting there. The US has their nukes under guard
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yeah propably. but still as s-t-n said it we are out of topic. back on it and thinking new ways for usa to fall.
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maybe attack of the mutant radioactive hamsters? lol.
maybe the u.s.a will just do wat britain did and decay for no good reason...
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Britain decayed cause it had nowhere to go
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and the USA has?
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true. but I still don't believe it is much harder to get one from usa.
Then your IQ is the size of your Shoe.
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I don't think that IQ has anything to do with this.
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Only if you're Stupid.
*Cough*Yesyouare*cough*
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It's my luck that I'm smart and old enough to leave your comments to the shadow. They just reveal how inmature you are. And back to topic.
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Immature? Half your posts are useless posts not even having any value.
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Meyer, Kalo - can you please stop arguing and insulting one another about intelligence and maturity.
Remember the forum rules: Insulting other forum members is a one way ticket to bandom.
Time to return to topic or lockedness might descend from the Administration (ie Arbiter).
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I tried to hint him but he just doesn't listen. but you are right Slornie. back on topic.
Now I know. A giant tsunami comes and wipes out usa.
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somebody detonates a bomb in the san andreas fault causing a giant chunk of america to fall into the sea...its not so much a way america could fal, but it wouldnt really be america anymore...
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Its still "sea to shining sea".
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somebody detonates a bomb in the san andreas fault causing a giant chunk of america to fall into the sea...its not so much a way america could fal, but it wouldnt really be america anymore...
I read a novel that had something like that quite recently.. "Goodbye California" by Alistair MacLean.. Tis a novel idea, maybe the Russians would donate one of their vacuum bombs to whichever terrorist organisation comes up with the best plan to accomplish it :P
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Yeah, Russia holds an annual convention to see who comes up with the best idea to kill off the US
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ok no they don"t trust me my famil have purty held purty high positions in the soviet military sand government and in the russian
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wait, what?
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I too am puzzled by his lack of punctuation.
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whats more likely is that GB/EU/Russia will go to war with America. it'll start as them telling America to get the bases out of our countries, then relations will go extremely south, and eventually war will be declared...dunno whether GB or America would fall so Ive put it in both...
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why would GB go to war against US
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at moment there is a lot of anti-americanism in europe...in case you hadnt noticed. naturally, i keep an open mind and arnt one of these people...but there are a lot that dont do the same
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That doesn't mean they want war
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it does mean they dont any US bases in the countries...
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For the longest time (during the Cold War) Europe was kissing the A$$ of the USA to keep forces in for their own protection against Communism. France was the first one to break away from that and the rest of Europe is following. Rumsfeld didn't help matters by straining relations with them... There are a few European countries who like the USA though, like Great Britain, Italy, Spain, etc...
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im in great britain and i can assure you...there are a LOT of people who arnt exactly pro-american here...
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yep i used to think americans were big headed idiots
i still think some are ,only some
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LOL, yeah I've seen that in GB, but their a little more pro-American then the rest of Europe...
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Or should that be a little less anti-American.. :P Nah, only joking.. there's nothing wrong with Americans.
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Yeah, their not bad... But there is definatly issues that need to be resolved...
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im an amreican but id rather not be
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rather be russian by any chance?
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Why would you not want to be in the US?
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I hate some americans and those are mostly politicians. most people on this forum are great. and why doesn't he want to live in usa? maybe because he is a COMMIE! or then he just thinks he could have a better life in some other country.
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Can't blame you, who dosn't hate politicians???
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Americas great to live in, just tune out the whole political crap and its almost perfect
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but that's the catch, ism't it? you can't tune out the political crap. but if you ever manage to do that, I'll move to usa ASAP.
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Americas great to live in, just tune out the whole political crap and its almost perfect
yes but other places can be just as good
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this is one of those matter of opinion type of things.
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Politics dont really affect everyday life, unless you let it get to you and start complaining and such
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its the peapole i cant stand