Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Meyer on August 11, 2007, 03:11:13 AM
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What is in your opinion the best MBT in the world?
Leopard 2.
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Why did you forget Chuck Norris....?
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what has Chuck Norris to do with MainBattleTanks?
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He is an army on his own.... But I suppose adding him would be unfair, since nothing else would get votes...
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Isn't Chuck Norris a movie star?
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I voted M1 Abrams. U.S.A.! U.S.A.!
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Abrams you say. I trust german quality. After all they did make the best tanks in WWII, so why shouldn't these be even better with the help of modern technology.
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Because Germany is now an extremely weak country. U.S.A. is the only superpower left.
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on what basis are you the only super power left?
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Best army, lots of nukes, overall the most powerful country on earth.
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best army? How do you know you have the best army? lots of nukes? Russia has lots of nukes too. overall the most powerfull? USA is taking so much debts that it'll bankrupt in few decades.
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So, we have the most modern equipment. And the most rigorously trained people.
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modern? how do you know. usually something new is kept secret until needed. I think none of us knows nothing of the newest and propably the best weapons of USA, Russia and other major countries.
"And the most rigorously trained people."
I bet no american could survive the training of russian or chinese army. hell those dudes are treated like cattle.
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You're probably right. But we also have the most factories that could be converted to tanks and other equipment.
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I think russia beats you on that aspect. I mean in the time of Soviet Union they build nearly all factories so that they could be transformed to produce military material like tanks and assault rifles and planes and whatever you need.
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personally i prefer the abrams
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right on sister, ive never heard of any of those other olanes.
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Leopard 2 is said to be the best MBT in the world.
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Challenger 2 is my second favorite.
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british quality.
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righte-ho old bean.
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riiiiigth. Me no speake enklish
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old britts say rightey-ho.
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jolly good.
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righto old bean.
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can you please stop that.
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O.K.
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gracias. and for that I give you a plus karma.
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THANK-YOU
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That is disturbing.
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isnt it great?
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tha's insulting towards everyone who sees that picture. one minus karma.
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to you too.
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at this -karma rate I'll be the most hated member in th forums by the end of the next week.
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I GOT - 10 KRMA MY FIRST day.
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Id say either Abrams or Challenger
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Me two, you know we agree on alot of things, except you thing i am a bigheaded Jerk.
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Not jerk, more like retard
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:laugh: :laugh: retard :laugh: :laugh: funny
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Chuck Norris could beat China and Russia with both arms tied behind his back.
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While blindfolded
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chuck norris wouldn't last two seconds against my brothers.
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He only needs one
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And that gives him enough time to have fun with a girl in between.
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chuck norris sucks.
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Tonight you will be brutally roundhouse-kicked by Chuck Norris in the pancreas.
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bring it on. norris will cry his momma the second he sees me.
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me hates chuck noris but can we get on topic please and thank you
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yep.
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Chuck Norris has a wierd name.
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tep. back to MBTs.
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THANK-YOU
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pukes raptor thats wrong but the t-90 is the best tank
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russian quality eh? Althought I have to say that if there has ever come any good things from russia, it has to be weapons and military vehicles. I mean T-34 was one of the best tanks WWII and AK-47 is perhaps the best assault rifle in world.
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well t34 was the best tank at the start of the war but not in the end
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yes it was the best in the start of the war or actuaaly in the middle of the war. but this conversation belongs to Tanks in WWII, don't you think.
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If anyhting good came from Russia it was their tanks
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yep. and AKs
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well i suppose theyre alright
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AK-47's?
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great weapon. it has better caliber than NATO weapons. but back on MBTs.
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I'd go for the Challenger 2, since im British :P But really i dont know anything about tanks, and i cant be bothered googling to compare them.
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And unfortuneately comparing tanks is difficlt because most have little actual battle experience
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true. I don't think any of those tanks on the list have been tested in large scale battle.
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The abrams has seen the most out of them, and then probably the Challenger
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but neither of them has met their equals. I mean abrahms has only met some obsolete tanks.
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Exactly, no modern tank has been battle tested, although in Desert Storm like 7 abrahms took out like 100 Iraqi tanks, obsolete or not, thats impressive
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not really. they had better training and equipment. And I assume that had a long distance between those tank groups. Witttmans achievement an Villes-Bocage is impressive.
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It was a fairly close distance fight, the abrahms were the front scout of the rest of the tank division, the actually rolled into the middle of the iraqis and didnt notice
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Sounds like Wittmanns achievement. but he did it alone. With a single Tiger he stooped a british armor column.
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Thats not even fair though, the British didnt really have the firepower to take down a Tiger
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but they had dozens of tanks. and they had inantry support. and they were only 10 or so meters away from Wittmann. they should have been able to kill him.
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But they didnt cause the Tiger pwns
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yeah. they later killed Wittmann by bombing him with B-17s if I remeber right.
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Very nice, probably took a million bombs to find the right target though
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http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen3.htm
there's a link. take it down and you'll see what left of his tank after it was destroyed.
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Blew the top right off
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i think the prob of selecdting the best mbt is theve neve faced off against each other in combat all we have is stats
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just like the think on R-22 versus SU-47
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Thats what ive been saying
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yep. I just gave an exapmle from a another topic.
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Which ones the coolest looking then?
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looks i pic the T-90 ive always liked russian style and men
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I think that T-90 is best looking. it's sleek.
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M1 Abrams is better at every aspect.
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I think it ain't as good as Leopard 2.
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Raptor, stop coming in to something and blaring out, USA PWNS ALL!
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yes raptor your just anoying you are amrican respect your allies
I may be american for now but even i can see that were not the best country jesus crist raptor just shush
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than who is? Just cause im not a commie like the rest a' yus doesnt mean i need to shush. And i know all of you are conspiring agaainst me, i do read posts.
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well than ain'tvery conspiracy like thing. we say those things straight on your face. I respect your patriotism but you can't just say USA rules and expect all ofus to believe it. You don't even have any proofs of that USA "pawns all others".
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Please raptor, tone it down. And don't accuse us of being commies.
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How about you come and call me commiein front of me. Let's see how longyou live afterthat.
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Your always pickin a fight Raptor
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Say your things in a friendlier manner, raptor for common good.
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Yes, less confrontation
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that would do much good foryou and USA as a hole.
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he give amricans a bad name and raptor call me a commie again and ill personly hunt you down like the dog you are
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Seriously mandalore, you need to chill too
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i hate coffee, but will focus on topic
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coffee is great. I'll start trembling and feeling sick if I don't drink at least one cup of coffee in morning before school.
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yes brethe now ill go drink a bottle of water and chill
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Back on topic. Raptor, this is your last warning. If you ever post such a pointless and huge picture again, you get banned for 2 weeks.
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Was that last warning from a deleted post?
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Yes. a huge coffee cup.
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and he means HUGE.
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must have missed that :P
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What is so bad about that?
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dose he ever stop
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by he you mean yourself.
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no i mean you
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What was so bad was that it was no where near topic, way to big for a picture, and completely pointless to have put it there even if the topic was about coffee
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yep. true every word.
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and the man from findland is right again
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What was so bad was I've already given you 2 warnings for the same thing, and had to ban you 3 times already. For anyone else it would be much shorter.
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Topic again, Abrams has seen more combat, and I like it better, but the challenger has better weapons and armor.
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and now we wait for Raptors answer.
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Which we wont like
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But can the abrams do stunts like this
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Actually it can, im pretty sure all main battle tanks of today can
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why is it hovering?
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Noret : See the Hill?
Take a few Moments to collect your decision.
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I hope that tank has good suspension.
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Tanks arent known for the comfort of their ride
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more for their ass-kicking barrels
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and the shells that actually fire from those barrels
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oh yeah
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Tanks arent known for the comfort of their ride
but those tanks are very heavy. witohout good suspension it will break down if it takes a jump like that.
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trust me its a t9 it has a good supesion here is one raptor did not mention a t-80 used by china
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Nice pic, doesn't look like very good security there.
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Tank Shell to the Face is good enough Security. :police:
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certainly it is
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i think those were set to be scrapped
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it would make sense
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dont need gaurds for a bunch o hulks
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dont need gaurds for a bunch o hulks
Im not following. :-[
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Hes saying they're sitting carcasses, scrap metal basically
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But I thought you guys were talking about T-80s.
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Yeah, the ones in the picture
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trust me its a t9 it has a good supesion here is one raptor did not mention a t-80 used by china
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I did not make the topic.
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well you posted abrams pawns all over the place so i assumed you did
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They didnt mention the t-80 for a reason, its out-dated compared to the newer t-90
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By they you meant Meyer, the creator.
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the t-80 is still in heavy use
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And now it's added to the list. although I original idea was that one country one tank.
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And it doesnt really matter if its still in heavy use, since the t-90 is the newer one, then i dont think you would consider the t-80 better
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Tell that to the people who beleive F-15 is the best fighter ever.
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and who believes that?
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ok the T-84 should be added It used by the ukraine and the t90 has been replace for the russian by the black eagle
The Black Eagle or "Object 640" is based on a lengthened T-80U hull, with an extra pair of road wheels and a brand new turret. It appears to have very thick front armour and new-generation Kaktus explosive reactive armour on the hull and turret. The turret has a very large, box-shaped turret bustle instead of the traditional dome shape of previous Soviet and Russian main battle tanks. According to Russian reports, the Black Eagle design has abandoned the carousel-style autoloader in the fighting compartment for an autoloader mounted in the large western-style turret bustle, which incorporates a blow-out armoured ammunition compartment for crew safety, like the U.S. M1 Abrams tank. The prototype has a 125 mm tank gun, but it has been stated that it may accommodate a larger 152 mm gun [1] (compared to the 120 mm or 125 mm-calibre guns of main battle tanks in service). Due to its size, it is probably substantially heavier than the T-80, and so would require a more powerful engine to achieve the same mobility. There is debate about whether the Black Eagle will incorporate the Drozd or Arena Active Protection System.
There is still speculation whether the Black Eagle is intended for export, or if it will be fielded with the Russian Army. Some rumours persist that this may be a South Korean project, as the 152mm gun that is thought to be next generation Russian weaponry is not being outfitted on this model.
Recent information seems to suggest that the Black Eagle program has been halted due to the acceptance of the T-90 into the Russian military. This is also compounded by the fact the company responsible for the Black Eagle's design, Omsk Transmash bureau, has been in a state of bankruptcy since 2002. If it were to be offered to the Russian Army, it may be in competition with the T-95 tank, a new design with an unmanned turret.
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Look like the Abrams Has A new Adversary Dunit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGlTiAd0Yyg haha nice song choice thats footage of it
Thats just A scale model
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8AyL_yQqE this show the real deal its in there in places along with a t-90 doin donuts
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fine I'll add it for to keep you quiet.
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i was just updating u on the new armor that was being implemented
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Tell that to the people who beleive F-15 is the best fighter ever.
Meyer, alot of US vet pilots beleive that.
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believe what exaclty?
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I modified the post.
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I see. well everybody believes what he or she wants to believe.
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i belive that the game battle tanx shold happen in real life so i can lead an armurd tank gang
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Thats nice. You should wish for that on Corrupt-A-Wish.
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i should and then sombody would say somting that end up with me dieing
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Like your group is really an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell.
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Huh im no terroist man If u think That u must be standin to close to a lit Joint
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One man's terrorist is other one's freedom fighter. I mean you say Al-Qaeda is a terrorist group. Maybe there is someone who say they are a group of freedom fighter's trying to stop USA for doing something.
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One man's terrorist is other one's freedom fighter.
Ive heard that somewhere before.. now where was it..
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ive heard it too
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Its a really common/popular phrase when talking terrorism
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I remember it from one specific place.. Now what was it.. Ah yes - One of the James Bond movies :P
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yep. that's where I heard it too. but it can be said to be true, in my opinion. for example, french resistance were freedom fighters in their own mind and in Allies and french people. but to germans they were terrorists.
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No, i doubt the Germans thought of them as terrorists
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and why do you doubt that?
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Everybody during ww2, including the Germans, were preparing home defense forces, basically resistance fighters, so the Germans knew they would face underground resistance
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which would have been referred as terrorist by the allies, russians at least.
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Sure, the Russian propaganda center would have set that up, but during a big war like that and they strictly target the military, they'd probably have been seen as resistance
Although German propaganda said otherwise
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(its halo)
The M850 MBT AKA the grizzly. twin 125 mike-mike cannon ftw.
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It's been sometime since my last post, therefore, it makes no sense to post something on the actual forums right now, but this topic called my attention. I've actaully heard that the MERKAVA mk4 from the IDF is one of the best out there. Not as famous as the ones listed, but worth metioning