Thrawn's Revenge

Off Topic => Star Wars Discussion => Topic started by: vadereclipse on July 12, 2008, 02:53:17 PM

Title: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 12, 2008, 02:53:17 PM
thought i'd make a thread to exasperbate their shittyness.
krayt is shit. copied the brotherhood of darkness.
they don't make a story about vos post-survival. why make one about hett?
whoever made legacy made it so all writers filling in the gap have to comply to what is happening in 130ABY.
characters are mainly gay, with the exceptions of K'krukh (legend) and R2-D2.
discuss its shittyness.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 13, 2008, 07:05:51 AM
havent actually read them but in my opinion legacy shows the inevitable, what will happen when all the star wars heros (luke,leia,han) are dead and the next generation enters, at least R2 and k'kruhk are still there
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 13, 2008, 07:35:26 AM
it should be abolished from canon.
fancy making all the history from 40ABY to 130ABY have to agree with this shitty comic.
hett belongs in the past with vos and other undocumented purge survivers.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Meyer on July 13, 2008, 07:58:14 AM
it should be abolished from canon.
fancy making all the history from 40ABY to 130ABY have to agree with this shitty comic.
hett belongs in the past with vos and other undocumented purge survivers.

I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 13, 2008, 08:49:36 AM
the brotherhood of darkness was gay enough, now they make an even gayer order with just a dozen red-skinned sith lords with sith tatoos. (maul?)
so it's all copied from somewhere.
new sith order-brotherhood of darkness.
empire- could be interpreted as bane-another force-sensitive faction undermining the sith.
tattered jedi order-hmm... kotor mean anything?
it should just be destroyed for disgracing what will probably be towards the bottom of the barrel of SW books.
will anyone want to write stuff which has to aggree with this? no. it'll be the takeover of the legacy comic author for that period, once and for all making SW shit.

now, large gaps in BBY are fine. they help to reinforce what happened, and mainly stem from a few sources, e.g. 25,000 bby-rakata-come from kotor.

i wouldn't want to read a SW bok with only 3 characters i knew  of (k'krukh, krayt, R2) and only 2 i remotely give a shit about (guess which i don't give a shit about :p)
well done, you've ruined star wars.

a petition should be made.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Re4_wesker on July 13, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
cade skywalker is a retard............ krayt is alright but i cant help but laugh that every other previous sith lord has abandoned him :laugh: . anyways ya i dislike a lot about it. i never knew r2 d2 wuz still around in the comic.....
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 13, 2008, 02:29:53 PM
legacy is for noobs.
krayt is gay.
noobs are like "0mg! he'z wearing v0ng arm0r! tat is 1337!"
if mace was there, he would be destroyed.
haven't read them, only know it by wookieepedia, but doesn't stop me hating the concept.
to my knowledge, R2 barely has a cameo, but does in small places.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 13, 2008, 03:22:09 PM
it was cool when nihilus bane and revan appeared, other then that not much worth mentioning
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Corey on July 13, 2008, 06:16:08 PM
They've basically turned "Skywalker" into another word for drug-addicted psychopath....
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on July 13, 2008, 06:44:29 PM
They've basically turned "Skywalker" into another word for drug-addicted psychopath....


Amen.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 13, 2008, 06:49:18 PM
i think it's safe to say SW decays from here on.
looks like mandalorians are probably destroyed, as there is no mention of them.
and why the hell did nihilus show up to help krayt live forever? shouldn't it have been sion?
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: grandadmiralbeck on July 13, 2008, 07:01:30 PM
it was cool when nihilus bane and revan appeared, other then that not much worth mentioning


ummm revan never appeared, it was nihilus, bane, and andeddu.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Meyer on July 13, 2008, 11:45:53 PM
and again the jedi order is brought down.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: grandadmiralbeck on July 14, 2008, 12:00:18 AM
honestly. couldnt they have just left the galactic alliance and new jedi order alone! i'm tired of post-GCW stuff. I personally, would like some more books that go back to Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War+immediatly after that, and way before that. e.g. founding of the jedi, exile of the sith, hyperspace war, etc...
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 14, 2008, 04:12:14 AM
BBY is good, shame there are pretty much no books for it other than Bane and CW stuff.

here's something to think about. why was nihilus brought to try and help krayt live longer? nihilus wasn't living through unusual things. he was just a wound in the force. now darth Sion, i would understand, but why nihilus? he'd end your life most likely!
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 14, 2008, 04:45:38 AM
i think it's safe to say SW decays from here on.
looks like mandalorians are probably destroyed, as there is no mention of them.
and why the hell did nihilus show up to help krayt live forever? shouldn't it have been sion?
If the mandalorians are dead then star wars has killed its greatest race, and yeah it should have been sion (if he really wanted to live with every bone broken and be in pain for eternity).
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 14, 2008, 05:53:58 AM
i think it's safe to say SW decays from here on.
looks like mandalorians are probably destroyed, as there is no mention of them.
and why the hell did nihilus show up to help krayt live forever? shouldn't it have been sion?
If the mandalorians are dead then star wars has killed its greatest race, and yeah it should have been sion (if he really wanted to live with every bone broken and be in pain for eternity).
well, krayt wanted to live through unusual circumstances. andeddu and bane both lived through strange circumstances. andeddu used the force to keep himself living as his body decayed, while bane was covered in orbalisks, but if anything, they empowered him. although nihilus was more force than man, he could theoretically still be killed by anybody. i mean, i've killed him with canderous :p
sion lived through his body being broken and consisting of splinets of bone and ddry cracked flesh. sion should of had a holocron. perhaps because he was never the master...
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 14, 2008, 06:25:03 AM
Nihilus became dark lord of the sith after dethroning traya, sion just wanted to hunt traya and jedi
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Slornie on July 14, 2008, 06:34:40 AM
Ive not read any of the Legacy comics, and i dont plan to.  I would much rather see more concerning the Clone Wars, and the Rise of the Empire era, than post LotF.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 14, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
i hope it's abolished.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: grandadmiralbeck on July 14, 2008, 11:15:41 AM
supposudly, the only way nihilus lived was to live through his armom/robe. at least, that's what krayt made it sound like. and that's what krayt was trying to do, do he called nihilus.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on July 14, 2008, 02:38:29 PM
honestly. couldnt they have just left the galactic alliance and new jedi order alone! i'm tired of post-GCW stuff. I personally, would like some more books that go back to Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War+immediatly after that, and way before that. e.g. founding of the jedi, exile of the sith, hyperspace war, etc...


At this point anything would be better than the current storyline.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 14, 2008, 02:40:24 PM
it's killing SW and creating a designated track.
rule 1 in creativity: don't restrict your creativity.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on July 14, 2008, 02:42:25 PM
Agreed. They should have kept going, not skipping 100 years. They have already messed up other things by doing this crap. (hm)
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 14, 2008, 02:47:06 PM
it's not creative. it's taking themes of the darth bane era (non-rule of 2 sith) kotor era (ruined jedi order) and little bits of virtually every order and making it all up. what's worse, the noobs love it. kids are going to want to buy SW comics, the legacy ones being the most prominent, then absolutely love them, breeding a bunch of cookiecutter writers.
i knew SW would die some day, but it's going to be before 2010 with this sort of shit being released. they even stole the name from another SW book series.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on July 14, 2008, 02:50:09 PM
Well, we will see. With the new Clone Wars series coming, maybe we will see some good Star Wars, although this could get ugly. :-\
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Meyer on July 14, 2008, 03:45:23 PM
Ive not read any of the Legacy comics, and i dont plan to.  I would much rather see more concerning the Clone Wars, and the Rise of the Empire era, than post LotF.

I too would like to see more Rise of the Empire era stuff. and it's true that there is thousands of years of unwritten stuff. why go ahead when the past isn't all clear?
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Delta 07 on July 14, 2008, 05:50:45 PM
They should write the Mandalorian Wars, Rise of the Empire, and right after the last book of the Legacy series. form what i have heard, the comics are crap and should be burned
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 15, 2008, 04:10:53 AM
id like to hear more about the mandalorian wars such as way way more battle details.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on July 15, 2008, 04:38:30 AM
the comics were an intersting read but i could not like any charecter except Roan Fel that man is BAD ASS
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 15, 2008, 05:01:47 AM
situation phails.
i'd like to see the 3,956BY-1,000BBY gap filled. however, i imagine LA are protecting parts of that timeline for games like K3, if one does come out.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 15, 2008, 07:23:18 AM
situation phails.
i'd like to see the 3,956BY-1,000BBY gap filled. however, i imagine LA are protecting parts of that timeline for games like K3, if one does come out.
yeah i read the new kotor mmo is set around 3500bby, gonna be a lot of new stuff added hopefully since only thing that is documented then is the discovery of the iktotchi
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on July 15, 2008, 08:50:23 AM
the thing is, MMO means monthly fees, which means phail.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: ARC-Trooper57 on July 15, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
the fees arent too bad im willing to pay for at least one of em (no more then that though)
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on July 16, 2008, 02:54:04 AM
15 buck a mont for an mmo is not that bad
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Meyer on July 16, 2008, 10:09:56 AM
that depends.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 21, 2008, 08:55:06 PM
What is wrong with you people?  Legacy is friggin' awesome.  I don't see how it's shitty, although it might be occasionally.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on August 29, 2008, 04:21:12 AM
What is wrong with you people?  Legacy is friggin' awesome.  I don't see how it's shitty, although it might be occasionally.
set 90 years after LOTF? please.
by setting that there, creativity in novels is restricted.
any novels have a narrow time to work with, and have to use characters mentioned in legacy.
if post-LOTF was empty, they could be expansive and decent. Now, it becomes KOTOR era 2.0. loads of jedi and sith fighting, and a few non-force sensitives acting as suckups to main characters (not that kotor is bad) and to be honest, krayt's sith order all look like gimps to put it bluntly.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: Delta 07 on August 29, 2008, 08:04:05 PM
i agree with vadereclipse. the lotf comic series makes authors write stuff that lines up with the comics which gives them no way too use imagination. The new sith order is crap. the only good part of the comics are the re-rise of the empire
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 29, 2008, 08:14:45 PM
I admit i don't like the new sith, but that doesn't make the comic instantly bad.  I like the new ships and the new characters.  If you pick apart every good book/movie you can make it sound like complete and utter crap.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on August 30, 2008, 04:05:29 AM
my main dislike of it is the distance from other books. it all needs to line up, so plots may be inevitable. For example, we now know ben had a son/grandson called kol skywalker. we also know that at one point, the Fels become emperors of a new empire. it's giving authors guidelines which you really can't do for a novel. it doesn't let the mind run free.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 30, 2008, 01:18:52 PM
I agree on the Skywalker thing, but i doubt there's only one family with the last name of Fel, even though you're probably right.
We also don't know how it happens, which is what other people can come up with.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on August 30, 2008, 01:37:03 PM
Let's face it, though it's going to be Jag and Jaina's descendants, or perhaps another descendant of Jag.
also, pre-Krayt, a picture of peace is given. I don't know about you, but peace isn't generally very interesting. you need conflict to interest you.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 30, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
Do you know the Jag and Jaina had kids?  No.
A picture of peace?  They just came off a galaxy wide war, then skipped seven years to a more rebellion-esque resistance.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on August 30, 2008, 02:10:45 PM
no. pre-130ABY or at least pre-100ABY.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 30, 2008, 02:40:25 PM
expand on this...... i guess i don't understand what you're saying no to
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: vadereclipse on August 30, 2008, 03:17:39 PM
well, they had everything together, with no obvious opposition, the ossus project was going on. The vong were on good terms with people! you have to admit that suggests a picture of peace. then krayt fucks everything up by alienating the vong? to disturb a longlasting peace isn't exactly easy.
Title: Re: legacy comics criticism.
Post by: siegfried1 on August 30, 2008, 08:55:17 PM
Just means the team that made it had some good plot elements.