Thrawn's Revenge

Off Topic => Star Wars Discussion => Topic started by: GreyStar on May 09, 2017, 11:50:09 AM

Title: Daala
Post by: GreyStar on May 09, 2017, 11:50:09 AM
Was she a good character at all? Did the story benefit from her presence, or just detract?
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: DarthRevansRevenge on May 09, 2017, 12:05:46 PM
she was an excellent idiot, other than that.... no
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Revanchist on May 09, 2017, 12:55:37 PM
Daala was a good character ruined by bad writing. She really did care about the Empire, and was one of the few Imperials less interested in personal power and more focused on saving the Empire. She also began the process of restructuring the Empire into a less oppressive regime. She was extraordinarily charismatic, and thus was able to recruit many to the Imperial cause. Unfortunately she was written during the late Bantam era of novels and thus pretty ridiculous plot bunnies ensued.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Illidan Stormrage on May 09, 2017, 04:26:06 PM
Daala was a good character ruined by bad writing. She really did care about the Empire, and was one of the few Imperials less interested in personal power and more focused on saving the Empire. She also began the process of restructuring the Empire into a less oppressive regime. She was extraordinarily charismatic, and thus was able to recruit many to the Imperial cause. Unfortunately she was written during the late Bantam era of novels and thus pretty ridiculous plot bunnies ensued.
This may sound like Heresy but  I HOPE the bring her back in the cannon and write her better
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: RevanTheFireMage on May 09, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
She's meh to me, but the thing that makes me mad is, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU LOSE A SUPER STAR DESTROYER THAT CAN F***ING CLOAK. Sorry for that but seriously, the damn thing can cloak and it has a roster of TIE Phantoms as well which were vastly superior to the standard TIE fighter. She should never, NEVER, have lost the Knight Hammer even with the Jedi being involved.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: RevanTheFireMage on May 09, 2017, 05:43:39 PM
She should of cloaked the Knight Hammer and retreated, she could've then waited for Pellaeon's fleet to group back with her's. And then her and Pellaeon could have strategized a new angle of attack.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Revanchist on May 09, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
Knight Hammer couldn't cloak
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: kucsidave on May 10, 2017, 05:05:40 AM
This is a common misconception we have met time and time again. The stealth armor it had was only a glorified sensor jamming device pained black, so it blended in with the environment (the darkness of space) a little bit more. It was making an interference with targeting devices as well, but it was unable to make the ship invisible, nor was it able to fully stop ships from targeting it either. Just made it a tad bit harder.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: The Fist Of Justice on July 19, 2017, 02:30:46 PM
This may sound like Heresy but  I HOPE the bring her back in the cannon and write her better

I can completely agree with that, a total waste of a potentially brilliant character that could've reunited (and maybe lead) the Empire. Maybe in some pre-TFA post-TLJ story it could be pretty neat, she could be the leader of another Imperial splinter group, or even have lead the First Order before TFA.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Lord Xizer on July 21, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
I felt Daala had the potential to be a great character, but her overall arc ruined it by making her more of a running gag than quality threat. She has moments where she is very human, shows adaptation and character growth to a degree but these are very few and far between. I'd say a good comparison would be put her character up for comparison with characters like Mirax, Iella, Lara, and Tionne and you begin to see the flaws of Daala's character design(not appearance but how she acts, develops and relates) It only gets worse when you look at a character like Pellaeon who has a similar arc that is handled far better and feels more relatable to the reader.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: kucsidave on July 21, 2017, 01:26:48 PM
Exactly. Dalla and the (K)Night Hammer were two missed shots. Both had potential but none of them were able to live up to it.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: The Fist Of Justice on July 21, 2017, 03:36:03 PM
I can completely agree with that, a total waste of a potentially brilliant character that could've reunited (and maybe lead) the Empire. Maybe in some pre-TFA post-TLJ story it could be pretty neat, she could be the leader of another Imperial splinter group, or even have lead the First Order before TFA.

*ROJ not TLJ oops
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: WarlordOfWildSpace on July 21, 2017, 08:14:35 PM
I can completely agree with that, a total waste of a potentially brilliant character that could've reunited (and maybe lead) the Empire. Maybe in some pre-TFA post-TLJ story it could be pretty neat, she could be the leader of another Imperial splinter group, or even have lead the First Order before TFA.

Like with a few legends characters, she is already sort of adapted into canon in the form of a new character, Rae Sloane. It's not exact, but a daring female Admiral who led the remnant at one point and helped form the new order? It's too close for comfort.

Similarly, jyn erso = Jan ors and Ben solo = Ben skywalker+Jacen solo.  Even the name kylo Ren is kind of stolen from the Droid cartoon where there was a character named kybo ren
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: GreyStar on July 22, 2017, 02:28:19 AM
Even the name kylo Ren is kind of stolen from the Droid cartoon where there was a character named kybo ren

Actually, a Fallen Jedi turned Sith Warlord and Emperor corrupted by an ancient dark siided being, known for his infamous mask, and capable of using both the Dark and the Light Sides of the force?

Revan.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: DarthRevansRevenge on July 26, 2017, 12:55:06 PM
thank you... wait, did they rip me off to make a terrible villain?
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Lord Xizer on July 26, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
thank you... wait, did they rip me off to make a terrible villain?

well i mean the entire new cast is a less charming rip off of many EU characters
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: DarthRevansRevenge on July 27, 2017, 12:45:29 PM
yeah, that is very true
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Revanchist on July 27, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
well i mean the entire new cast is a less charming rip off of many EU characters

MUCH less charming.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Zardnaar on April 02, 2018, 02:26:05 AM
Daala was a good character ruined by bad writing. She really did care about the Empire, and was one of the few Imperials less interested in personal power and more focused on saving the Empire. She also began the process of restructuring the Empire into a less oppressive regime. She was extraordinarily charismatic, and thus was able to recruit many to the Imperial cause. Unfortunately she was written during the late Bantam era of novels and thus pretty ridiculous plot bunnies ensued.

 This I quite liked her when she 1st came out and read the JA trilogy at the time, not later on before they added everything else (Darksaber etc).

 She had her moments, Daala as head of state was lame though as Pellaeons confidant I liked her alot.

Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Halyn on April 02, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
Not a fan of Daala. Inconsistent character, her actions did not match the supposed genius of her reputation...basically, the description of the character never matched the actions.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: Shermos on April 04, 2018, 01:33:16 PM
I haven't read any of the books or comics with her in them yet, but she seems pretty cool based on what I've read on Wookiepedia. She deserves to return to canon.
Title: Re: Daala
Post by: kucsidave on April 10, 2018, 11:25:44 AM
you are lucky you did not read anythign with her. HUUUGE letdown.
She has a few badass moments and to every one of that at least 50 which screws it all up