Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: DarthRevansRevenge on January 15, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
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school kills everything
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school kills everything
thats right
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school kills everything
thats right
No, it isn't. You only say it because you never had to work in 12 hours a day and pay th ebills, make food (the normal stay alive stuff) next to it.
Being in school is actually a sweetass time. enjoy while it lasts
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you work TWELVE HOURS A DAY!!!!?!?!??!?!??! that sucks. my dad only works 8 a day, unless he gets called to stay
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you work TWELVE HOURS A DAY!!!!?!?!??!?!??! that sucks. my dad only works 8 a day, unless he gets called to stay
That is life in my country. At least if you want to pay the bills, have monay for food and some extra to spend left.
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you do for a living?
And I would like to add in that my mother worked as safety management and worked 40 hours a week + driving to other states weekly with a minimum of 6 hour travel time.
She told me to go to college so that I don't get a job like that.
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you do for a living?
And I would like to add in that my mother worked as safety management and worked 40 hours a week + driving to other states weekly with a minimum of 6 hour travel time.
She told me to go to college so that I don't get a job like that.
I actually work in logistics. And it's not the sit in an office type of work.
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No, it isn't. You only say it because you never had to work in 12 hours a day and pay th ebills, make food (the normal stay alive stuff) next to it.
Being in school is actually a sweetass time. enjoy while it lasts
i know that school is not the hartest thing in live ,but if you make exam it is hard because you must learn a lot.
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that's what i meant. work, you can work around because you know your schedule. school, in America, you have to do Classes, Extra work, and homework, BEFORE anything else.
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that's what i meant. work, you can work around because you know your schedule. school, in America, you have to do Classes, Extra work, and homework, BEFORE anything else.
i life in germany but it is the same.
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No, it isn't. You only say it because you never had to work in 12 hours a day and pay th ebills, make food (the normal stay alive stuff) next to it.
Being in school is actually a sweetass time. enjoy while it lasts
This is absolutely true. Once school ends is when everything dies.
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school kills everything
Also jumping on what Kucsidave said, I had a Server position (part time) and went to University full time, while also helping my sick dad around the house. I know its a "I climbed uphill both ways" type of situation but yeah enjoy your time as a Sophomore (second year), even though I had rough time dealing with personal things that year it was super easy compared to now. I don't mean this in a aggressive tone, just letting you know to enjoy the easy days.
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alright whatever. i'll have no more time, true, but it will be with(i'm assuming) future kids and family
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that's what i meant. work, you can work around because you know your schedule. school, in America, you have to do Classes, Extra work, and homework, BEFORE anything else.
I live in the US, I'm hundred percent sure school is tougher in pretty much every country. In high school its very easy to make extra time, granted that also depends on how well you absorb the material from your classes. I thought I had no time in high school as well, but looking back that was a load of BS, I was just lazy and didn't want to study. I knew people in high school who worked a part-time job and maintained a higher than 4.0 GPA. I don't know your personal situation, and your educational system, however just know high school is an easy time, but it doesn't mean you have to enjoy all of it. I dislike my high school time, due to a whole mess of issues, but I do miss the free time I had, and the easy learning material.
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High school was arguably the easiest education I ever had (I switched from private school in elementary to public high school). That being said, there are people who genuinely struggled with it. People like me just glide through and go to college, but I had friends who worked way harder and got a lot less for it. I'm not sure if some Americans are just SIGNIFICANTLY stupider than people in other countries, but (I could be wrong here but at least comparing to japan) I also would like to mention that high school is mandatory for longer in america than in other countries. So some people may have a family business to take over and thus stop trying in high school, leading to poorer test grades, leading to dumbing down the curriculum.
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High school was arguably the easiest education I ever had (I switched from private school in elementary to public high school). That being said, there are people who genuinely struggled with it. People like me just glide through and go to college, but I had friends who worked way harder and got a lot less for it. I'm not sure if some Americans are just SIGNIFICANTLY stupider than people in other countries, but (I could be wrong here but at least comparing to japan) I also would like to mention that high school is mandatory for longer in america than in other countries. So some people may have a family business to take over and thus stop trying in high school, leading to poorer test grades, leading to dumbing down the curriculum.
Well I don't think the whole problem is American students, though it is part the problem. American Teachers are also a massive problem in most states. Also no national unity in terms of education is also a huge problem on why American students can not even compare to nations like Japan. I mean there are still schools that teach creationism in science class, not that there's anything wrong with believing in that, it just has no place in the science class room. And sadly race is a big factor as well, if you're a minority you are more likely to be put in a suffering school with no budget, or educational standards than a white child of the same age. That's due to the fact that a lot of minorities live in poor conditions, for the same reason they couldn't get a proper education, which of course doesn't lead to good jobs and so on and so forth.
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The fact that we go to school based on location is somewhat strange.
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The fact that we go to school based on location is somewhat strange.
If you were to change that now it would basically screw up everything, plus we don't have the proper infrastructure to send students to schools on their educational level if they live extremely far away. The system works okay for the US were everything is super far apart and there's a bunch of empty space. Since Japan is around the same size as the UK and a huge population, then the system of sending students to the best schools for them works.
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The fact that we go to school based on location is somewhat strange.
Not really. It fits in with local funding of public schools, which charitably can be viewed as leaving areas the local control to fund their own schools as they deem fit and uncharitably can be viewed as rich white people not wanting to pay to educate poor brown people. The idea is that your kids go to the schools your taxes are paying for, so you have an incentive to maintain them. The problem is that plenty of districts are largely made up of low-income households, resulting in gross inequalities in available funding so that some US schools are state of the art with computers for every student and some schools can't properly heat themselves in the winter.
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Essentially, since public schools are funded by income tax, the surrounding populace's houses directly correlates to the school's funding. If we made a system where you paid income tax, picked the school you wanted to go to, and then paid (or received a reimbursement) of the difference in your income tax and the school area's income tax (and also paid for bus fairs), then this would arguably make schools far more competitive when it comes to attracting students to their area, possibly increasing the value of American education.
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Not really. It fits in with local funding of public schools, which charitably can be viewed as leaving areas the local control to fund their own schools as they deem fit and uncharitably can be viewed as rich white people not wanting to pay to educate poor brown people. The idea is that your kids go to the schools your taxes are paying for, so you have an incentive to maintain them. The problem is that plenty of districts are largely made up of low-income households, resulting in gross inequalities in available funding so that some US schools are state of the art with computers for every student and some schools can't properly heat themselves in the winter.
Or some schools that do have computers for everyone but can't pay their teachers or provide heat in the winter. This whole educational system is messed up, especially in the state I live in.
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Essentially, since public schools are funded by income tax, the surrounding populace's houses directly correlates to the school's funding. If we made a system where you paid income tax, picked the school you wanted to go to, and then paid (or received a reimbursement) of the difference in your income tax and the school area's income tax (and also paid for bus fairs), then this would arguably make schools far more competitive when it comes to attracting students to their area, possibly increasing the value of American education.
I think the "American" rule of thumb is we have to compete for everything, expect education, as soon as you try to make education competitive then everyone goes up in arms about it.
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The real reason we haven't had a complete overhaul of the educational system (for instance switching to year round schooling like the rest of the world) is that our politicians are lazy ass holes who don't like change. If something is in place, no matter how crappy the policy, it will generally stay unless there is a huge amount of backlash.
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year round schooling??? don't give anyone any ideas. the kids need more time to be raised as good and responsible adults, not spend their entire first 20 years in a classroom.
and then, no one would EVER have time to themselves, cause they would be doing school their entire first 20 years, meaning... no more summer vacation to disney world! No.....
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In a year round school system you get more time off than in the current system. So I would say that they have more time to be raised as "good and responsible adults". It also makes it so that you don't have a massive break where you forget everything. Also, I graduated from highschool when I was 17, so unless you're talking about college, you're a bit off.
As an after thought, schools could make it so that they have breaks at different times than each other so that you aren't swamped by people on your trip to Disney world.
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Essentially, since public schools are funded by income tax, the surrounding populace's houses directly correlates to the school's funding. If we made a system where you paid income tax, picked the school you wanted to go to, and then paid (or received a reimbursement) of the difference in your income tax and the school area's income tax (and also paid for bus fairs), then this would arguably make schools far more competitive when it comes to attracting students to their area, possibly increasing the value of American education.
Alternatively, we could just detach school funding from local taxes and instead have public schools funded at the state/federal level in proportion to student body size and other needs. Less competition, but less room for people to fall through the cracks as well. Of course, since our incoming Education secretary knows just about nothing about schools except that she likes private religious schooling, I'm not expecting any meaningful reform anytime soon.
I also think that year-round schooling makes sense. The summer break is an artifact from back when significant numbers of families needed their kids at home during the harvest. That need hasn't existed in decades.
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Alternatively, we could just detach school funding from local taxes and instead have public schools funded at the state/federal level in proportion to student body size and other needs. Less competition, but less room for people to fall through the cracks as well. Of course, since our incoming Education secretary knows just about nothing about schools except that she likes private religious schooling, I'm not expecting any meaningful reform anytime soon.
I also think that year-round schooling makes sense. The summer break is an artifact from back when significant numbers of families needed their kids at home during the harvest. That need hasn't existed in decades.
State funding is the reason why Arizona has such terrible schools. That's too much risk there. Most people grow (Mentally) during the summer and outside of school. Plus that would mean teachers would see and rise kids more than the actual parents which can be a bad and good thing. I personally think the standard of teaching needs to go up. Most of my teachers in my before college career were terrible.
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Nearly all public school districts in the US use a mixture of funding sources including local taxes, as well as state and federal support. Arizona, like many states, has actually been decreasing its state-level support for public schools, while federal funding has remained largely the same, which has increased their reliance upon local property and other municipal taxes (income taxes aren't processed at the local levels, and only factor into state and federal budgets).
In 2011, the national average amount spent was $12,411 per K-12 pupil. When including all federal,
state, and local monies, Arizona spent $8,806 per K-12 pupil, 29% less than the national average,
ranking 47th of the 50 states.
It is also instructive to consider Arizona’s education funding in comparison to the size of its overall
economy. Arizona spends $38.49 on K-12 education for every $1,000 of personal income. The
national average is $48.68, ranking Arizona 49th in the nation.
A third way to gauge the state’s financial education support is calculating the ratio of per-pupil
expenditure to per-capita personal income. This measure accounts for both the size of the economy
and the size of the state’s population. Arizona ranks 45th nationally on this measure.
https://morrisoninstitute.asu.edu/sites/default/files/content/products/AZ%20Ed%20Financing.pdf (https://morrisoninstitute.asu.edu/sites/default/files/content/products/AZ%20Ed%20Financing.pdf)
Arizona is, like many Republican-dominated states, underfunding its schools at the state level and increasing their reliance upon local taxes, which will vary greatly based on the wealth of the people in the area. The higher the reliance on local taxes, the worse off schools will be in the places that need good schools the most.
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Most people grow (Mentally) during the summer and outside of school. Plus that would mean teachers would see and rise kids more than the actual parents which can be a bad and good thing. I personally think the standard of teaching needs to go up.
How hard is it to understand that either way, schools will still have 180 day years. They just space the breaks differently. Parents and teachers will still see the students for the same amount of time.
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How hard is it to understand that either way, schools will still have 180 day years. They just space the breaks differently. Parents and teachers will still see the students for the same amount of time.
Sorry about that I completely misread that.
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I actually didn't think this thread would get this far