Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Darth Elmo on September 21, 2007, 05:19:22 PM
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I'm just writing this along other topics. Just the Idea of while the USA and Great Britain are wasting themselves over in Iraq, what has been happening in France??? If you notice, while the US and GB are cutting funds to their militaries while fighting a war on "terror", France has been putting money into theirs. While, also not by force, they are also dominating the EU. It seems as if the "Republique du France" is developing an "Empire by Peace". Just a thought ;).....
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french empire hahahahahahahaha thats just plain rediculos thyat like the frech declaring war
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careful...my family are french...(we get around :P)
and on topic, it wouldnt suprise me if france is still trying to get an empire...their gov dont know how to let go of the past...
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You kiddin? one sign of a fight and they'll raise the white flag
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we saw that in WWII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZPOfwVhokI
And if that's the quality of their weaponary we don't have anything to worry about.
But you have a point France and Germany are the leaders of EU and do what they want to smaller countries. that's why I think that Finland should get out of EU and join NATO instead.
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french empire hahahahahahahaha thats just plain rediculos thyat like the frech declaring war
You kiddin? one sign of a fight and they'll raise the white flag
Well, the French haven't always been pacifists when it comes to war. 1: Napoleon Bonaparte, 2: Their Victory over the English in the 100 Years War, 3: 1066 William the Conqueror's invasion of England...
And if that's the quality of their weaponry we don't have anything to worry about.
Actually their quality of weaponry is not bad, not as good as the US, but better the Great Britain's. They have more nukes then GB...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_France
They also don't have the world hating them...
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William the Conqueror was norman, not french. his ancestors were vikings who got the normandy from king of france so that they would stop raiding french.
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Thats right (Your one of the few people who I've seen actually who know that ;D), But over the years, the Normans adapted to French culture and they spoke French (The Normans are part of my heritage). So, the issue of if he was a Frenchman is debatable... A better example of the French being Kick-A$$ is Joan de Arc.
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Hahaha. Hohoho. You dont know what your talking about. Scarecrow is right and if France got into a scuffle with any country than they would raise the white flag before anything else.
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And when it comes to French Soldirers, the more there are just means more prisoners
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yep. I mean Rome was the mightiest nation of it's time but what about Italy today? same thing with France.
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I dont think Empires could really be started anymore anyway
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Yeah, your right it's just a funny theory to laugh at...
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personally, i reckon the french dont deserve to be spoke about like that. they put up a fight and didnt just surrender in every war ive heard of that they were involved in...and ive got A in history...
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well french were also beaten by vietnamese forces. Has France won any war after the WWI? no that I know. And I don't count WWII because France surrendered. without usa, gb and russia they would still be under germanys rule.
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unlikely the germans would have bothered staying there after years of constant resistance
I dont think Empires could really be started anymore anyway
oh? why not?
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unlikely the germans would have bothered staying there after years of constant resistance
So the Germans were trying to take over the world and then leave France because of a few resistance strikes? i doubt that
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after years of it yet look at america we've been in iraq 3 years and the populus is already complaining
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Theres a difference between the Nazis drive to control the world and the US in Iraq
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but there are also similarities.
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Such as?
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well the treatment of prisoners for one. It was all over thee news. how american guards had done something which I don't right now recall to iraqi prisoners. And the fact that there are constantly attacks against american troops and iraqi people who cooperate with usa. just like in france in 1940-44.
But why are we speaking about usa in a topic that conserns france?
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Dunno.
well the treatment of prisoners for one. It was all over thee news. how american guards had done something which I don't right now recall to iraqi prisoners. And the fact that there are constantly attacks against american troops and iraqi people who cooperate with usa. just like in france in 1940-44.
But why are we speaking about usa in a topic that conserns france?
That is all propoganda. (no offense to you) In reality the POWs from Iraq and other Al Quaeda countries are treated too nicely in USA.
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NO, they were some cases in which Meyer is right, but those were few in number
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yep. but few is all it takes to make people think that they must treat all prisoners like that. personally I don't care what is done iraqi prisoners. kill them all and don't spend any more time or food to them.
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i would tend to agree
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I would think Tahts Wrong Threre Huaman @ eventhoght they were towles on their heads
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That doesnt even make sense
and i dont care if they're human, they're killing their own people and my people, i dont really care, they deserve it
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Hes right.
If you kill for no good reason then your life should be lost too. But not too cruelly.
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errrr no good reason? and also make a bloody iraq war topic please so we stop spaming other threads about it
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We tried to... It got locked.
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make a new one do so theses dont get locked too or just stop talking about it
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I say stop talking about it. Also if the french tried to make a new empire, they would end up surrendering to any random guy with a 22.
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Theyd surrender to a two-year old with a small water gun.
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They surrender to the first dude they see coming towards them.
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theyd surrender to a teddy bear for pitys sake
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careful...my family are french...(we get around :P)
i sure as heck never surrender...fight to the end. example...the hoods attacked me and broke my nose, crushed side of skull yet i kept fighting and broke at least 2 of their noses.
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Yeah, but you're not French anymore
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wat u mean? my dads french which makes me french enough to serve in their armed forces.
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Way to go s-t-n. I was just referring to the leaders as a whole.
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But you live in England, so you've been de-francified
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why does everyone think the french are cowards?
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because history has shown such as it reapeats
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why does everyone think the french are cowards?
Because they always run away and never fight... That sounds like a coward to me.
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yep. I have to agree with Pellaeon.
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hm gotta agree
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pfft..yeh right. give me example an ill disprove the runnin away theory
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you mean example like Fall Gelb?
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are you talking about Dunkirk? tht was evacuation by Brits. Fall Gelb Brits ran 2, so dunt count...nxt
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Its better to run away to fight another day than stick around and get completely slaughtered..
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its better to be strong enough to make ur enemy run and u stay put
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Or make em hurt so much by you staying and dying that they become afraid of the rest of your countrymen and just quit
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Thats My point
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Oo, oo! Here's one Viet Nam! I know the US backed down too, but if I could I would change it.
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are you talking about Dunkirk? tht was evacuation by Brits. Fall Gelb Brits ran 2, so dunt count...nxt
Dunkirk was operation Dynamo. Fall Gelb is the codename for german assault to Belgium, Lowcountries and France. and if someone else runs too why doesn't it count? And I would like to remind that british were surrounded (motitettu) by germans because french units retreated too fast for their allies to follow. germans were able to come between.
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Oo, oo! Here's one Viet Nam! I know the US backed down too, but if I could I would change it.
so you want more people to die???
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so you want more people to die???
Its called Population Control :P And war increases consumption, which is needed to maintain a strong economy (all the production)..
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That why i want all country to gget rid of ther nukes and fight it would unify them and make them stronger in hte end Im talking WWIII scale here
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What would be the point?
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There isnt one..
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Except to ruin the lives of millions of people
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And to clear the air for a good fourty years That what war is good for Battle Make Countrys Stronger it is fact Even the County that loses benifts They lear somthing and Are better off And Millons of Peapol Bah this planets To Damn Crowded Any way it would be good to wipe out a good amount And it would help the planet as long as they die fighting The At least died with dignity
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It doesn't help countries that lose, it hardly helps countries that win, countries that heavy fighting goes on in are completely decimated, just look at Berlin or Stalingrad in WW2, they were almost completely destroyed
And then superpowers come up at the end at another cold war happens, like the one that screwed up Russia
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and u still dont look far enough ahead another cold war could not happen with out diterrance aka nukes Or super weapons im talking All possible super weapons and if you dont think war helps contry then i ask Are u on drugs Look at america It would not exist without war
France would Own Britan WIthout war And Look at the us and russia from allys to ememy to allys
BRitan and france emeys to allys it all dependes on circumstance mabey you should Try to imagne wat we would be without war and youll see my point
M-T-I
Peace
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You're right, without superweapons, there wouldn't be another cold war, they'd just go attack each other cause they have nothing to fear
And war may have helped in the past a few hundred years ago, but nowadays it wont help, only hurt, there aren't any more colonies or unclaimed land, everybodys got their own country now so the only thing war would do is kill off countries, not help new ones
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Old contrys die new one rise and are stronger and war helps the ecomemyof all sides involed With all the prodution it makes the peapole Of the country closer and eventally they stop fighting and trebuild a better stronger world
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Oh yeah, i see what you mean, i mean look at Russia's economy after WW2, or better yet how bout Germany
And the fighting hasn't ever stopped between countries, i dont see how it would after WW3
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Although I dont agree with him, M-t-I has a point: the US came out of a depression because of WWII.
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yep. war does boost economy but at what cost.
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At the cost of international stability, civilian populations and the environment..
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how about soldiers?
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not to mention historic stuff and natural resources
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Soldiers originally came out of the civilian population, natural resources comes under environment.. But only physical reminders of the past can be destroyed, history itself cannot be touched.
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yes it can. it's called altering the records.
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Thats only changing the record of history, what actually happened stays the same..
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I was talking physical monuments and areas and suchs
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well how do you that those things you right now take as an truth aren't a piece of altered history.
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I dont know that what i think i know is history hasnt been tampered with. But if it has been tampered with, whatever did happen still happened, i just dont know that it happened :P