Thrawn's Revenge

Imperial Civil War [Empire at War] => Discussion, Suggestions & Feedback => Topic started by: LeNimble on January 14, 2015, 09:53:32 AM

Title: Infinities FTGU
Post by: LeNimble on January 14, 2015, 09:53:32 AM
Hi everyone!

I am new to TR and this particular forum so first I will state that this is an incredibly well made mod and well done!

However, one thing does bug me - the FTGU GC map is completely underwhelming, it has a small number of planets and doesn't even include Coruscant.
Can someone please explain to me the design decisions regarding this galactic map and whether or not there are any alternative maps for FTGU?
So far I haven't been able to find any.

Thanks for reading, sincerely,

LeNimble
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: Corey on January 14, 2015, 03:23:46 PM
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it has a small number of planets

This is because of EaW's freeze issue/selection bug. Basically, after a certain amount of stuff  has happened in a GC, the game stops being able to track objects and makes it impossible to select units, so the game becomes entirely unplayable. Number of planets in a GC is pretty much the main variable we had under our control to mitigate this issue. Yes, there are other bigger GCs, however the fact that you start with only one planet means that each planet changes hands multiple more times in a GC before you even get to what would be the starting point of another GC. Its current size is basically right on the cusp of keeping it finishable before the error would occur.

There's nothing any mods can do within the game to fix this issue, but since the development of this map, we've been able to create a utility when can defreeze individual save games after it happens. This is useful for campaigns that stretch on longer, but we ideally don't want to create campaigns which rely on the user having to/being able to leave the game to run a separate utility multiple times to finish them at all.

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doesn't even include Coruscant

The map was essentially set up to have different levels of planetary importance at equidistant jumps from each of the starting locations, and Byss was simply a better choice for this. Coruscant is certainly important to the narrative of this time period and any other time period really, but so are a ton of other planets, and there are plenty of maps which are focused on those narrative threads which already include it. Being a scenario which is completely agnostic to the greater story of the time period, it just doesn't really gain anything from having Coruscant in it.
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: tlmiller on January 14, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
As many times as I've played FTGU, I never even realized it didn't have Coruscant...
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: Mat8876 on January 14, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
That was the first thing I did notice along with Mon calamari
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: kucsidave on March 09, 2015, 12:08:34 PM
As many times as I've played FTGU, I never even realized it didn't have Coruscant...
That was the first thing I did notice along with Mon calamari
Not just those planets.
Kuat and Jaemus aren't present as well. The only shipyard planet present in this GC is Syca, which if you ask me gives EotH a slight advantage, balancing out it's "bad" starting location's side effects.
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: tlmiller on March 09, 2015, 01:52:26 PM
Not just those planets.
Kuat and Jaemus aren't present as well. The only shipyard planet present in this GC is Syca, which if you ask me gives EotH a slight advantage, balancing out it's "bad" starting location's side effects.

I'm assuming you mean of the normal "starting" shipyards?  Because there's definitely more than just Syca in the overall game.
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: Vulcanus on March 09, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
I'm assuming you mean of the normal "starting" shipyards?  Because there's definitely more than just Syca in the overall game.

Syca has the galactic company bonus available.
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: kucsidave on March 09, 2015, 04:09:52 PM
yeah, sorry i messed it up.
I meant shipyard company planet
Title: Re: Infinities FTGU
Post by: tlmiller on March 09, 2015, 06:00:52 PM
yeah, sorry i messed it up.
I meant shipyard company planet

Ah, ok, yeah.  Figured that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure.