Thrawn's Revenge
Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Augustus Lucius Flavius on December 19, 2013, 10:23:48 PM
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Well I was watching Prophets of Doom on H2 and decided to post this. My vote goes to creating the first Empire.
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Economic collapse brought on by the greed of the American government.
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tlmiller yours is probably the correct one but I think it is the most easily avoided one. We just need our people to pay attention and elect people who actually know what they are doing instead of the same people for 30+ years.
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I'd go with economic collapse, only caused by government impotency/incompetence rather than greed. That hard-fought budget deal that was recently voted through cut a mere $23bn dollars off the US's $642bn deficit - so it only reduced the amount of extra debt the country takes on each year by about 3.5%!
We just need our people to pay attention and elect people who actually know what they are doing instead of the same people for 30+ years.
You mean the people who elected Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann? :angel:
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I'd go with economic collapse, only caused by government impotency/incompetence rather than greed. That hard-fought budget deal that was recently voted through cut a mere $23bn dollars off the US's $642bn deficit - so it only reduced the amount of extra debt the country takes on each year by about 3.5%!
You mean the people who elected Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann? :angel:
Anyone who voted for either of those should be shot at close range with a shotgun multiple times.
I actually liked McCain, refused to vote for him because of Palin.
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I mean all of them. Republicans and Democrats. There are people in Congress who have been there since the early 60s. Their time of contribution has long since passed. My family is Republican but we are starting to lean away from them, not towards Democrats we think they are stupid too nor the TEA partyers because they do not make any sense any more. I think it is time for the Imperial party to rise.
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I mean all of them. Republicans and Democrats. There are people in Congress who have been there since the early 60s. Their time of contribution has long since passed. My family is Republican but we are starting to lean away from them, not towards Democrats we think they are stupid too nor the TEA partyers because they do not make any sense any more. I think it is time for the Imperial party to rise.
Ask japan how that worked out for them.
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Japan had the misfortune of messing with America that had been dabbling with Imperial policies. Also the British Empire did quite well for itself.
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Economic collapse, followed by gradual loss of world and military might. Much like Rome in it's last days. Good thing I'll build up a power base that will be self sustaining.
As to the Imperial Solution, I'd back it if a worthy candidate could be qualified to rule. Hmm, now I sound like Kaine...
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You'll have to invite me to your base Xizer . Argentina will probably collapse before the US does
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Nothing wrong with sounding like Kaine. He was one of the smartest and most long-term viable leaders of the Empire. Smart enough to adopt the policies of the Empire that were good, but also smart enough to dump those that kept it back such as the anti-nonhuman sentiment. And a great tactical mind.
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The Imperial Solution. I like it but maybe we should not call it a solution as that might bring up some unpleasant memories of a Final one. On another note. Who should be our Emperor? I do not think any of our current leaders are up for the job therefore, I nominate myself. Any objections?
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I say we take all our current leaders, put them in a locked building that there's no way out, with them each having nothing but a knife, and the last one standing gets the nod. Survival of the fittest.
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IT IS GENIUS!
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Nothing wrong with sounding like Kaine. He was one of the smartest and most long-term viable leaders of the Empire. Smart enough to adopt the policies of the Empire that were good, but also smart enough to dump those that kept it back such as the anti-nonhuman sentiment. And a great tactical mind.
Agreed, I'll take that as a compliment
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It's threads like these that make me afraid of our fanbase.
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It's threads like these that make me afraid of our fanbase.
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Corey..I love democracy...I love the Republic...these powers I will be given I shall lay down when this Crisis Abates....
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I'm honest. I'd be a benevolent dictator. But the only group I would discriminate against would be the cheese-eating surrender monkeys. I don't like them.
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It's threads like these that make me afraid of our fanbase.
After ICW and Ascendacy I don't see why would you be afraid of us hahahah
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The 3 way war option is very unlikely. The only one of those two who might *possibly* stand a chance against America in a conventional war is Russia. If they teamed up on us, still very unlikely. A lot of people forget that while China's military is huge, they have a fairly small navy. Russia has the second or third strongest navy in the world at this point, and even that is aging. The only thing they have going for them is their combined air forces. Not to mention, there is a fucking ocean between us and Asia. There is Europe between us and Russia (or again, the Pacific seeing as Russia has a port to both oceans) which stops them from mobilizing too much. Even if they did get here, they would have to deal with our reserves, the actual military, and then the millions of armed civilians and our very militarized police. I mean, our basic police forces have fucking APCs. There is no way we would lose a conventional war.
We are going to fail economically sooner or later. The White House should have taken the Death Star gamble while they ahead. That'd create quite a few jobs.
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Crisiss I figured the 3 way war was unlikely but put it for two reasons. 1). It is all but assured that we would win the War but even victories can wind up being too costly. Take Britain in World War 2 for example. To win they had to purchase ships and supplies from America but had to give up pretty much all of their Naval Bases, including Iceland, allowed them to rule the oceans and the world for so long. Also they wound up being hugely in debt and not able to sustain their Empire in Asia and Africa leading to the loss of that. Something like this could happen to America fighting 1 billion Chinese and a crap load of Rusky tanks. We would be tied up in Europe trying to save our allies there and need an Ally in the Pacific so get India to help out. To get them to join us we allow them to take Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Indonesia, and the Philipines(?) giving them an Empire to build upon. After the war we are exhausted finically and wind up giving up our military bases in foreign countries and gradually turning into a second tier power. 2). I could not figure out how to get rid of options so I put random ones in.
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Crisiss I figured the 3 way war was unlikely but put it for two reasons. 1). It is all but assured that we would win the War but even victories can wind up being too costly. Take Britain in World War 2 for example. To win they had to purchase ships and supplies from America but had to give up pretty much all of their Naval Bases, including Iceland, allowed them to rule the oceans and the world for so long. Also they wound up being hugely in debt and not able to sustain their Empire in Asia and Africa leading to the loss of that. Something like this could happen to America fighting 1 billion Chinese and a crap load of Rusky tanks. We would be tied up in Europe trying to save our allies there and need an Ally in the Pacific so get India to help out. To get them to join us we allow them to take Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Indonesia, and the Philipines(?) giving them an Empire to build upon. After the war we are exhausted finically and wind up giving up our military bases in foreign countries and gradually turning into a second tier power. 2). I could not figure out how to get rid of options so I put random ones in.
You said this was a 3 way war though. Russia vs China vs America. None of Europe other than western Russia. And no, we would really only have to pay operating costs for our navy and aircraft to keep them at bay. So unless they plan on swimming across the Pacific or the Bering Strait (or going over the North Pole for whatever reason) we would be well prepared. But if we did launch a land offensive, we would get screwed financially. I don't think Europe would want to join anyways as nobody wants to piss off Russia. We all know what happens when you piss off Russia. China would have a hard time supplying and moving 1 billion troops and billions of tons of equipment across the Himalayas and Middle East, not including food, fuel, and ammunition. In a sense, nobody would win because of the economics. America has the standard victory by destroying the opposition down though.
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Oops. You are right. I was thinking three alliances. My fault. Just America, Russia, and China your scenario makes the most sense.
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Two words - Raptor Apocalypse 8=)
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Raptors? So what, we clone dinosaurs, they become the most popular pet, raptors kill everybody?
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Sounds good to me!!
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Raptors are the greatest! I want a pet raptor!!
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Raptors are the greatest! I want a pet raptor!!
...and so it begins
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Well, they certainly couldn't identify the bodies through fingerprints with pet raptors...DNA might be more difficult, but you'd probably need several raptors in order to eat everything to not leave any DNA evidence...
hmmm...do raptors eat hair?
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Raptors would be pretty messy though, so it would become clear that they were the culprit...unless we engineered a violence gene that could be turned on/off, that way by the time to police arrive the raptor is back to its docile state and is never suspected.
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This topic got weirder than I remember hahaha by the way, never liked raptors, there was an old game wich you had to hunt dinosaurs and the raptors always killed me, they were too fast
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This topic got weirder than I remember hahaha by the way, never liked raptors, there was an old game wich you had to hunt dinosaurs and the raptors always killed me, they were too fast
You mean Carnivores 1 and 2 or the Dino Crisis series?