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Title: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 25, 2007, 09:53:25 AM
Vote!
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Raptor on August 25, 2007, 10:26:10 AM
Grevious beat like 5 jedi, so freivous easy.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 25, 2007, 10:51:55 AM
yeah. if Grievous can kill jedi just like that, delta squad is no problem for him.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Raptor on August 25, 2007, 11:36:35 AM
But dont get me wrong i love Delta Squadron.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 25, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
I love Grievous.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 25, 2007, 12:12:50 PM
I dont know if Grievous could block laser shots with a lightsaber though
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 25, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
I believe he could block some. and he is fast too.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 25, 2007, 01:03:09 PM
Still though, Delta squad had four guns, pointed at one person thats alot of firepower
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 25, 2007, 01:06:13 PM
but what if grievous surprises them. and Grievous was able to move fast and hide from the jedi.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 25, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
If grievous was the one surprising, hed probably win
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Slornie on August 25, 2007, 04:31:41 PM
Delta Squad, they're less predictable than Jedi, fight outside melee range, and have a considerable amount of ordinance at their disposal.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 25, 2007, 04:42:25 PM
Thats what i was sayin earlier, even if Grievous could block a couple shots somehow, Delta had too much firepower they could concentrate for Grievous to handle

Only way for Grievous to win is to surprise them at really really close range
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 25, 2007, 04:51:31 PM
I still think greivous would win ( though I hate him). Hes a cyborg. He has got four arms. He may have some sort of system that allows him to block bolts. He is fast. And he can take a beating. One slash from a lightsaber and any member of Delta Sqaud is toast.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 25, 2007, 04:53:52 PM
I just dont think he had the reflexes to block the lasers
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 25, 2007, 04:56:15 PM
I modified my last post.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Corey on August 25, 2007, 04:57:02 PM
He could, just not as well as most jedi. the lasers wouldn't do much to him unless it hit his organs anyways.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 25, 2007, 04:58:54 PM
Thats what I said:

I still think greivous would win ( though I hate him). Hes a cyborg. He has got four arms. He may have some sort of system that allows him to block bolts. He is fast. And he can take a beating. One slash from a lightsaber and any member of Delta Sqaud is toast.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 02:28:46 AM
yep. Grievous had good armor and wouldn't easily unless you hit his organs, which you can't if you don't crack his armor first. besides DS was basically a clone squad with a bit better training. they weren't so amazing.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Raptor on August 26, 2007, 09:03:21 AM
Did you just say a bit more trsining. They had alot of training and specialized equipment.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 09:05:29 AM
not much more than reg trooper. and they wouldn't even be in there without that game. and there they were given "special" equipment to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 26, 2007, 11:59:37 AM
They were alot more highly trained than an average clone trooper, all commandos were
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 12:04:42 PM
Not so sure. and even if they were Grievous would still beat DS without breaking a swet.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 26, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
If only because its probably impossible for him to sweat
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
it's a proverb! I know he can't swet. let's say then that he could beat DS with ease.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 26, 2007, 12:09:26 PM
I know, i just thought to throw that in there
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
and I thought that when I posted it I should note that I know he can't swet.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 26, 2007, 12:16:30 PM
But then i wouldnt have been able to make such a witty comment
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 26, 2007, 12:18:50 PM
I decided to give you a chance.  ;D
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 26, 2007, 12:20:29 PM
Wait, do you mean chance?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kalo on August 26, 2007, 10:58:56 PM
Well what are the Circumstances? Are they in a wide open area? Grievous is slow and bulky, so they may be able to take advantage of that...So i vote Delta Squad.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Dr. Knickers on August 26, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Agreed with Kalo. Depends on the scenario.

Let's see an open field...

Two gunners with rifles keep his sabers busy blocking shots
One anti-armor man makes him weave back and forth to dodge shots
One sniper who can aim at openings in the armor

If that fails, they got their pistols and vibroblades.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Corey on August 26, 2007, 11:27:08 PM
Since when was Grievous slow?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Dr. Knickers on August 26, 2007, 11:28:45 PM
They could always be far apart
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 27, 2007, 12:31:29 AM
But what if the battle was in a maze? DS would have to split up to search the hole maze and then Grievous would strike.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 27, 2007, 12:32:14 AM
Why would they be in a maze?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 27, 2007, 12:33:15 AM
Why would they be in a open ground?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 27, 2007, 12:34:46 AM
Because there is probably a 700000000000 to 1 ratio when comparing open fields to mazes
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kalo on August 27, 2007, 01:39:14 AM
It even states it, not to mention if you hit him with an Ion Grenade his Bionic Implants will have an Epic Failure.

And i meant like, say a Hangar :0.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Dr. Knickers on August 27, 2007, 01:44:28 AM
It could always be a noob map  ;D

Anywho, if it was a maze, then Delta could just wait in one particular area while Grievous runs around and finally running into an ambush. Or maybe the whole squad can travel together; better a slow victory than no victory.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 27, 2007, 08:23:13 AM
in a maze Grievous would just walk throught walls. and in open ground: who says that the DS gets a hit on Grievous? he moves fast.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Raptor on August 29, 2007, 09:37:17 AM
Grievous wins no matter what.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 30, 2007, 09:45:17 PM
Even when at the bottom of a 100 meter pit, 10 ft wide, with particle shielded walls while Delta sits above?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: sarcronis on August 30, 2007, 09:52:53 PM
I doubt he would win there, unless he climbs, while blocking their blasters and dodging their rockets.  Although that is very unlikely.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 30, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
The walls are shielded, so he cant climb
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: sarcronis on August 30, 2007, 11:57:05 PM
Then, he is screwed.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kalo on August 31, 2007, 02:15:22 AM
Unless he throws Four Lightsabers...
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 07:43:12 AM
Even when at the bottom of a 100 meter pit, 10 ft wide, with particle shielded walls while Delta sits above?
How would you get Grievous in a place like that? I tell you there is no fucking way he will go to that kind of an trap.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 11:14:13 AM
Im just sayin that cause Raptor said he would win no matter what
And I doubt how good Grievous would be at the whole lightsaber toss thing, he doesnt have force-powers
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 02:21:29 PM
yep but he could throw them at great accuracy and speed thanks to his programming and power.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 02:26:00 PM
They just wouldnt come back unless they fell straight back down
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Slornie on August 31, 2007, 02:52:46 PM
yep but he could throw them at great accuracy and speed thanks to his programming and power.
But unlike Jedi he can't use Force powers to adjust their course if/when the target moves.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 03:45:35 PM
I didn't claim that he could. I just said that he could throw them at great accuracy.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Slornie on August 31, 2007, 03:56:23 PM
I know, and im just pointing out a weakness he has with throwing them, apart from the fact that he has to go pick them up afterwards :P
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 04:41:27 PM
if he cares. he has lot's of sabers.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: sarcronis on August 31, 2007, 04:42:23 PM
At least 4, but he did kill a lot of jedi and he took all of their sabers.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 04:59:38 PM
He dodnt neccessarily keep them with him though, i think he only kept the ones from the best jedi
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 05:03:29 PM
I read that from somewhere too. only those he valued.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 05:06:12 PM
From wookiepedia: "Grievous hunted Jedi for sport, keeping the four lightsabers of his most powerful victims within his cloak as trophies of his superiority."

I think that means he only had the 4 with him
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 05:07:20 PM
yep. but he could have carried more if he had wanted to.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 05:12:30 PM
Sure, he could have carried a hundred if he wanted, but he was to arrogant to ever carry more than 4 probably
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 05:15:40 PM
well with four hands four sabers seems quite obvious choice, don't you think?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 05:16:59 PM
Well, he could also supposedly use his legs too because he had repulsorlifts 'installed'
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 05:17:53 PM
wasn't that only in the clone wars cartoon?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 05:21:03 PM
I dont know, i just remember reading it on wookie
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on August 31, 2007, 05:49:46 PM
ah. well I don't believe that. and can you imagine Grievous floating in air and usnig 6 lightsabers?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 31, 2007, 06:05:16 PM
I can, its rather humourous
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kratas on September 01, 2007, 05:21:14 PM
yep i can too
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on September 01, 2007, 09:20:27 PM
How would he use his feet if they had to pointed at the ground in order to levitate?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Corey on September 01, 2007, 09:23:57 PM
Tat was just CW cartoon. Don't take it as canon.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kratas on September 02, 2007, 05:41:30 AM
although the new clone wars cartoon im sure we can consider canon
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kalo on September 02, 2007, 01:31:26 PM
Agree'd, Considering Lucas is behind it and all.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 02, 2007, 06:34:13 PM
He wouldnt have to point them towards the ground, they shoudl just make him float
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 03, 2007, 05:55:01 AM
but I doubt it would happen. those repulsorlifts would need a energy source and there is none in Grievous that would be powerful enough to support him.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 03, 2007, 10:32:02 AM
Batteries? And how else do his arms and legs move? Magic?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 03, 2007, 01:18:36 PM
those repulsorlifts would need a energy source and there is none in Grievous that would be powerful enough to support him.

meaning: there is not enough power for him to move and have his repulsor lift on. And where would it be? there is no sign of it in him in the movie.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 03, 2007, 02:15:53 PM
It wouldnt take all that much space, we can make batteries the size of stickers, im sure they can do better
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 03, 2007, 03:21:50 PM
but those batteries aren't so effective.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 03, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
They are over 3 million years ahead of us technology wise, they know how to blow up suns and travel faster than light, i think they can handle powering some repulsorlifts with a small battery
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 04, 2007, 01:02:44 AM
well I still doubt he has those repulsors.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kratas on September 04, 2007, 12:51:23 PM
but they arnt over 3 million years in the future i quote

a long time ago
in a galaxy far far away
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 04, 2007, 06:32:55 PM
and i qoute "They are over 3 million years ahead of us technology wise"
pay attention
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 05, 2007, 12:20:08 AM
where do you get that 3 million? I have heard it from somewhere but I don't recall it just now.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Slornie on September 05, 2007, 04:54:48 AM
Its probably just an estimate using to obscure data..
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 05, 2007, 06:53:44 PM
I dont remember it from anywhere, just guessing really
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 06, 2007, 01:04:03 AM
I have heard of it somewhere. can't just recall where.
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Kratas on September 06, 2007, 12:34:29 PM
well i think 3million is a bit to far
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 06, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
yep. hyperdrive was invented circa 25000 BBY
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 06, 2007, 03:20:28 PM
you mean bby?

and the star wars time frame doesnt really matter
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 07, 2007, 01:10:35 AM
And why it doesn't?
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Scarecrow63 on September 07, 2007, 08:13:17 AM
Because we have no idea where they were in comparison to us, i mean the basis for time we use is the battle of Yavin, and you cant compare ours to theirs based on a fictional timeframe
Title: Re: Grevious vs. Delta Squad (without Magna Guards)
Post by: Meyer on September 07, 2007, 10:53:58 AM
yep. we can't know for sure. but aren't we quite far from the topic?