Thrawn's Revenge
Ascendancy [SoaSE] => Ascendancy Discussion => Topic started by: Senza on April 24, 2012, 05:01:02 PM
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What's this? O.o Also, first!
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Inquiring minds want to know!
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oh god what is this i'm not so good with computers how did this get here
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Inquiring minds want to know!
Sounds like someone is quoting Psycho mantis from Gigavilles Last Days of FOXHOUND...
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No but really what is this? O.o
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Wtf Kalo, you broke the forums.
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Really though, what is Star Wars: Ascendancy? Come on somebody tell us.
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I think I might know.
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I'll take bets on what this is (odds below):
100:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Yuuzhang Vong War era
50:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi era
25:1 - Creepy fan fiction detailing Sullustan/Givin mating rituals
10:1 - Another mod from the TR team based on another game besides EaW
1:1 - A new forum they opened to see how many insane responses people would post demanding to know what it is
Personally, I'm hoping it's a Chiss "Ascendancy" centered mod, GC or TR expansion, but that's probably a terrible guess...
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25:1 - Creepy fan fiction detailing Sullustan/Givin mating rituals
How the hell did you know?
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I'll take bets on what this is (odds below):
100:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Yuuzhang Vong War era
50:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi era
25:1 - Creepy fan fiction detailing Sullustan/Givin mating rituals
10:1 - Another mod from the TR team based on another game besides EaW
1:1 - A new forum they opened to see how many insane responses people would post demanding to know what it is
Personally, I'm hoping it's a Chiss "Ascendancy" centered mod, GC or TR expansion, but that's probably a terrible guess...
I'm going with the first two options and the last sentence.
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Spoilers for Fate of the Jedi Below:
I was actually enjoying it a bit up until Vortex, although it did give us some stuff to work with for the mod. Reige is a pretty transparent attempt to recreate Pellaeon, though.
So I opened up Specter of the Past again, and was thinking about how the story opens with Luke thinking he needs to dial back on his Force power use, and then how LotF and FotJ completely refused to acknowledge this (thanks again Del Rey). and was going to remark again on how awesome Zahn's book are in comparison, when I reread the above sentence from the Favorite Authors thread: "although it did give us some stuff to work with for the mod."
Now I'm suddenly thinking about this forum you opened...(add in your own dramatic noise)
Although I'm still putting my money on Sullustan/Givin pair bonding rituals...
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KOTOR's always been my favourite Star Wars game. And Enceladus has always liked Blue's Clues.
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Who doesn't love KOTOR??!?!?! Die Meatbag!
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Or maybe it was a hint.
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everybody knows that some freaks r out there who would watch crappy mating rituals, so i go with the sullustan/givin thing
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I'm going to go out on a limb and reveal that it is not in fact Givin/Sullustan slashfiction.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and reveal that it is not in fact Givin/Sullustan slashfiction.
You mean i don't have to leave space in the manual for it?
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You mean i don't have to leave space in the manual for it?
You could make it an Easter Egg capture bonus for when you conquer Sullust and Yag'Dhul!
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Hmmm...I'm not sure what to think at this point... I think its safe to say it has something to do with Star Wars
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Ye gads. Adventurous, and daring, My dear friend Darth Arbiter is.
I applaud you. All of you.
I look forward to Ascendency, something of which I truly have no clue as to what it is. Nope. Nothing at all. I don't still have mod team permissions, nope.
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So misleading, Ben. I'm sure nobody caught on. It was the obvious choice.
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So misleading, Ben. I'm sure nobody caught on. It was the obvious choice.
But attempting to Corey-ograph a major ballet based on the life and death of Grand Admiral Thrawn? Your courage astounds me.
Bravo, sir.
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KOTOR's always been my favourite Star Wars game. And Enceladus has always liked Blue's Clues.
What does this have to do with anything?? Unless you're planning something based off of KOTOR, which would be awesome.
Otherwise, Corey-ographing a ballet would be great as well.
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What does this have to do with anything?? Unless you're planning something based off of KOTOR, which would be awesome.
Otherwise, Corey-ographing a ballet would be great as well.
See ,annoyin' text is my thing. Even Zer understands that.
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YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHH CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSS WWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hate you
sincerly random dude you don't know
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This has gotten pretty far off topic, so I'm just gonna redirect it back to discussing what Ascendancy may or may not be.
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I bet we're going to pimp this game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendancy_%28video_game%29
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June 12th, 2012.
Change your probabilities at all, Yutpaeski?
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June 12th, 2012.
Change your probabilities at all, Yutpaeski?
TR Mod Team trip to Star Wars weekend at Disneyland?
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/12/star-wars-weekends-2012-at-disneys-hollywood-studios-dates-announced/
Oh whoops that's June 8-10. I got no clue what's up with the date. However, based on everyone's cryptic responses and suggestions from others, here are my updated odds:
500:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Yuuzhang Vong War era
200:1 - Another EaW mod from the TR team centered on the Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi era
5:1 - A KOTOR II campaign mod centered on Blues' Clues.
2:1 - Creepy fan fiction detailing Sullustan/Givin mating rituals
1:5 - A new forum they opened to see how many insane responses people would post demanding to know what it is
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I'll go out on a limb here and confirm that it is in fact a mod.
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An FoC mod? Or is it something else?
Maybe it is an actual campaign for FoC, chronicling the war against Thrawn.
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A mod that gives information about the sullusatn/givin mating rituals?
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A mod that gives information about the sullusatn/givin mating rituals?
I'd play that...and I'd bet I'd be good at it too...
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I'd play that...and I'd bet I'd be good at it too...
Shudders at the thought!
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You guys are getting off topic again :police:
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You guys are getting off topic again :police:
I'm afraid i'm a bit lost, what WAS the original topic?
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Well at least it is a mod. But...
It doesn't sound like a Vong mod or a Legacy Mod or a Old Republic mod...
Just Saying.
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All I can think is a mod centered around the Great Galactic War but I kinda doubt it.
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I'd only watch mating ritual videos from the Star Wars universe if it involved the Togruta. I mean, that's what this topic is about! Mating rituals from SW right?
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I'd only watch mating ritual videos from the Star Wars universe if it involved the Togruta. I mean, that's what this topic is about! Mating rituals from SW right?
Togruate only? Not a fan of the Twi'leks?
And before anyone points out we're getting off topic, I'd like to point out that we have no idea what the actual topic is!
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The topic is rampant speculation. My favourite thing in life.
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Yay I created a much discussed topic! :p
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And yet despite all the hints I've spread around the forum for months now, nobody's got it.
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Its obviously a Kotor type of mod or a mod for Kotor
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Its a Trap!
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No I think Corey suddenly came to the realization that he's Darth Revan!
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No I think Corey suddenly came to the realization that he's Darth Revan!
That too.
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well, it not a trap, so what is this?
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i think i know why this here now.
but im not telling :HA:
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I think I know what this is, but I'm not saying out of fear of being wrong and thus knowing I wasted nearly five minutes of brain power trying to figure it out.
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Interesting why dont you just say it i already know what this is now anyways cause i figured it out, so this topic doesnt keep going off topic.
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Noone will say it because the truth is that "There is no spoon."
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Since you all seem so skeptical:
1. Ascendancy is in fact the name of a mod we're working on. This isn't just here for the fun of watching people guess something that doesn't exist.
2. I have posted many clues (in fact, dead giveaways) to certain aspects of what it is.
3. As far as I can remember, only one actual clue has been in this thread. The rest are elsewhere,
4. Some hints go back as far as a year ago, but with conflicting information at that point.
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Personally, too lazy too look for clues. I will just keep hoping it's the mating ritual mod.
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I don't think I've been around here long enough to know what and where these hints would be.
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Well, you've been around for the three posted in the last 10 days.
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KOTOR-era mod for Sins of a Solar Empire? Incidentally, that's also another of my favorite games.
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KOTOR-era mod for Sins of a Solar Empire? Incidentally, that's also another of my favorite games.
That's exactly what I was thinking, except maybe not for KOTOR, but you never know. Or, it could be a Supreme Commander Mod.
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Interesting why dont you just say it i already know what this is now anyways cause i figured it out, so this topic doesnt keep going off topic.
My many guesses, (because I hate one guessing :P)
=That they're reviving that old, dead KoTOR mod for EAW that died in like 2009 and barely got off the ground (there was an alpha released of it).
=A KoTOR mod for Sins of a Solar Empire
=A Starwars mod for Sins of a Solar Empire
=A KoTOR mod focusing on the Chiss Ascendency and their alliance with the Sith for Sins of a Solar Empire
But if I had a disruptor held to my head and had to ball all of this up into one guess, I'd say it's something about the Chiss Ascendency, taking place in the KoTOR Sith Wars era, if it's for SoSE then I probably won't play it since I only have the first game and couldn't really get into it.
Noone will say it because the truth is that "There is no spoon."
:'(
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But if I had a disruptor held to my head and had to ball all of this up into one guess, I'd say it's something about the Chiss Ascendency,
The Chiss never did anything themselves in the Galaxy back then. They may have been the only official allies with the Sith, but they never did anything with them. Atleast in my Bounty Hunter playthrough they didn't do shit. And I actually interacted with them in said playthrough.
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The Chiss never did anything themselves in the Galaxy back then. They may have been the only official allies with the Sith, but they never did anything with them. Atleast in my Bounty Hunter playthrough they didn't do shit. And I actually interacted with them in said playthrough.
So a KotOR mod where the Chiss Ascendancy doesn't have any AI files? =D
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Its probably not going to be a Chiss centered mod its probably going to be a kotor mod for FOC, or Sins of a solar Empire or its new Expansion Rebellion.
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Yeah Corey's June 12 2012 hint, that's the release date for SOAS:Rebellion. I would find it amazing if they did a mod for Rebellion since it has yet to be released, but I can imagine a SOAS mod centered on the KOTOR era. That'd be pretty badass.
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Yeah i just remembered that Rebellion isnt released yet.
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Anybody know why incredible characters like Thrawn, get little or no attention, but little insects like Wedge, Darlaa and Pellaeon get entire series written about them? I mean seriously, Thrawn could and would have beaten any enemy up one side and down the other hands down.
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Anybody know why incredible characters like Thrawn, get little or no attention, but little insects like Wedge, Darlaa and Pellaeon get entire series written about them? I mean seriously, Thrawn could and would have beaten any enemy up one side and down the other hands down.
Pallaeon gets a lot because he served the republic, the empire, the imperial remnant. He was one of the very few characters in the entire galaxy to survive all of it.
And he's nothing NEAR an insect. While not a tactician on the level of Thrawn, he was still a great tactician, and managed to hold the Empire together in some way shape or form through the death of the Emperor TWICE, Thrawn, etc. One of the most important characters in the entire Imperial history.
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Anybody know why incredible characters like Thrawn, get little or no attention, but little insects like Wedge, Darlaa and Pellaeon get entire series written about them? I mean seriously, Thrawn could and would have beaten any enemy up one side and down the other hands down.
First off, Thrawn gets LOADS of attention in the EU(Outbound Flight, Choices of One, Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command, Spector of the Past, Vision of the Future, as well as being mentioned with awe and respect in nearly EVERY EU book)
Wedge is hardly an insect(guy survived BOTH death star runs created Wraith and ran Rogue squadron, became a great general of Fleet command and is one of the most essential NR characters ever created.)
Daala(while arguably the most militarily inept character I've ever read of, still managed to reunite the Empire and lead to it's salvation by turning it over to Pellaeon.)
Pellaeon-is the only EU character I know of who has served some 70 yrs of active duty. he was an amazing tactician(he beat Antilles, Iblis, and Ackbar at different engagements throughout his career, the only reason he had to retreat so much was often a lack of material or power to turn the tide, i.e. too little too late.) He's probably the third greatest tactician in the SWEU. He survived so many brushes with death and was the SOLE SAVIOR of the Galactic Empire. He fought the CIS, Nuso Esva, pirates, Rebels, Warlords, NR, Yuuzhan Vong and Confederacy, no one else has a record even CLOSE to that. He was Thrawn's greatest protege as well.
Also you forget something else, Thrawn lost battles too, not often but it did happen. Finally These other insect survived when Thrawn was killed, they outlived him and created their own legacies that shaped the Galaxy.
So that's why.
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Well said, Xizer,well said. Anyway, why are we talking about this in a forum about a new mod??
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I'm about 99.9% sure its a mod for the Sins expansion, as I'm sure everyone else is as well, but what knowledge we know about the Sins expansion may paint us a picture about the mod. First Rebellion has 6 factions, in the original there were 3 but each one has split in half because of infighting and rebellion, next Sins has complex diplomacy so you can not only go to peace and war with different factions but also use "Machiavellian strategy". Now lets look at the word Ascendancy, it means "Occupation of a position of dominant power or influence". Now where in the Star Wars timeline have we seen a time where there were many different factions that were vying for Ascendancy, they had split from each other, and they used a variety of fighting and Machiavellian strategy aka diplomacy to get to their goal?
The Imperial Civil War
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Or the Second Imperial Civil war
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Or ummmm any war in Star Wars history
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Keep trying.
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I'm about 99.9% sure its a mod for the Sins expansion, as I'm sure everyone else is as well, but what knowledge we know about the Sins expansion may paint us a picture about the mod. First Rebellion has 6 factions, in the original there were 3 but each one has split in half because of infighting and rebellion, next Sins has complex diplomacy so you can not only go to peace and war with different factions but also use "Machiavellian strategy". Now lets look at the word Ascendancy, it means "Occupation of a position of dominant power or influence". Now where in the Star Wars timeline have we seen a time where there were many different factions that were vying for Ascendancy, they had split from each other, and they used a variety of fighting and Machiavellian strategy aka diplomacy to get to their goal?
The Imperial Civil War
Not that it matters, but faction numbers in Sins of a Solar Empire are easily moddable. You can have as many or as few as you want functioning just as well as the number the base game has.
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I am officially protesting this thread until a full announcement is made or unless somebody says something really really good.
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Everyone, boycott TR until something gets announced. =D
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Everyone, boycott TR until something gets announced. =D
Patience, you must have. Made in a day a great mod is not!
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This has nothing to do with blackmail, and everything to do with release day.
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Well what do ya know, it worked! It is a SOSE mod.
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Well what do ya know, it worked! It is a SOSE mod.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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Excellent...I am pleased...
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Wow sounds good =D =D =D.
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Indeed it does
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Do I have to buy another game? Probably. *sigh* STOP MAKING ME BUY THINGS! =P
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Depending on how the mod looks when it's released, I might pick up the game. Doesn't look in the least bit interesting to play (for me) as it is, but with the mod, I imagine I'd enjoy it.
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Very psyched about this mod but until then, 2.0 is going to keep me busy until ascendancy comes out. (hm)
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I was hoping the game would be on a steam summer sale. I was disappointed. Oh well, I'm sure it will come around sooner or later. If the mod is good, I might just get it at sticker price.
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It was 25% off during the Steam summer sale.
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Yep, it was 25% off. Not enough for me and my moth filled wallet :P
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I'm assuming no land battles
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Nope. We get to focus on one game mode.
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I'm assuming no land battles
Nope. We get to focus on one game mode.
Aw, I liked land battles. Then again, the vanilla game doesn't even have them so it would probably be impossible to mod them in. Oh well.
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I would ask that you guys not give the Star Dreadnaughts ridiculous AoE like the Titans in Rebellion :p But other than that I eagerly look forward to seeing how this plays out. Been playing Sins solely because of this forum, and I really like it.
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Since sins of a solar empire allows for better path-finding for star dreadnought would you consider of adding maybe more and different SSD for the empire (remnant, aliment, warlords so on ...) factions and possibly similar dreadnought sized ships for the other factions? Also would you add heroes for the factions?
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Sigh I'd like to request that there not be any Dreadnoughts...but since I'll probably get shouted down, I can just hope that SOASE handles them better...
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Assuming you mean SSDs by Dreadnaughts, then yeah Sins handles them much better. Superweapons in general work a lot better.
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Oh, yippee Spambots. What sort of ships will be colony ships? Having a lambada shuttle bing classed as frigate does not do justice.
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So Titans are the SSD's makes sense and so in SoSE:R can you add more ships then EaW:FoC like in sub categories?
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Oh, yippee Spambots. What sort of ships will be colony ships? Having a lambada shuttle bing classed as frigate does not do justice.
Just because something was called a frigate in Sins doesn't mean it'd be a frigate in SW. And just because it's called colonizing in Sins doesn't mean we'd call it colonizing in Ascendancy.
So Titans are the SSD's makes sense and so in SoSE:R can you add more ships then EaW:FoC like in sub categories?
We're not adding in anywhere near the same amount of units as we did for ICW. F
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Nope. We get to focus on one game mode.
It's 100% diplomacy oriented game play! Can you handle the hot negotiating action? Bargain with Hutts, sneak policies with Bothans, pretend to care about Alderaan for the refugees, Preach the virtues of democracy to the Imperial Remnant and achieve a Peace for our time between your government and the Dushkan league!
YAY today!
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...What?
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...What?
Just kidding since you said you'd not have land battles and could focus on one aspect of gameplay(meaning space battles I presume) I jokingly suggested making Ascendancy solely diplomacy based gameplay with no fighting lol. I look forward to seeing Ascendancy when I get some free time...in about 11 months due to the Army.
Again Gentlemen it's been an honor and an interesting journey playing and contributing to Thrawn's Revenge.
Obi-Wan voice from Episode IV, "The Force will be with you...always."