Thrawn's Revenge
Imperial Civil War [Empire at War] => Discussion, Suggestions & Feedback => Topic started by: yutpaeksi on February 10, 2012, 04:36:08 AM
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Have you guys given any thought to changing concussion missiles and proton torpedo behavior such that they don't pass through shields, while also adding missiles and torps to starfighters that canonically carry them like A-wings and X-wings?
This way, some fighters could do double duty against other fighters and capital ships. You could reduce starfighter laser cannon damage to help offset this, thereby making it much more important to field bombers or missile-equippred starfighter bombers...
I just find it unrealistic and a little silly that you are able to take down an Impstar's shield generator with a couple squadrons of bombers in a single pass, stripping it of shields...
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Well it is realistic actually,in ideal conditions a star destroyer would field it's fighters to offset any such threat and in larger groups it would be escorted by Lancers.
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Kratas is right, torpedoes are the main threat to capital ships. Just as the rise of torpedo planes and bombers in our world heralded the mortality of the Battleship to air power, Rogue Squadron used numerous opportunities for torpedoes to inflict damage on shielded ships quickly. I think the game is well balanced fighter and bomber wise now personally. (Though I would like to see the Defender fare better as a starfighter as well as a bomber. They get cut up too easily by other fighters when they are actually one of the best fighters in the galaxy.)
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^^^^^^^^^^^ I agree full on with lord xizer, id actually totally stopped using defenders and forgot about them until now cause they were so ineffective, especially compared to like b-wings or the old syca bombers
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My point isn't that bombers shouldn't be a threat to capital ships, obviously that's what they're supposed to do. My point was that it's silly to think that shields wouldn't stop projectiles.
If enemy ships had only ray shields and no particles shields, wouldn't it make sense to instead equip your ships with craploads of torpedo and missile launchers to completely bypass an entire layer of defense? That would mean that all capital ships would field launchers instead of cannons...then subsequently ship designers would be forced to include projectile shields.
I simply want torps and missiles to detonate against shields, which is what they do in canon. It doesn't change the strategic value of bombers. If you want to talk about rogue squadron, every X-wing book highlights how they use their torpedoes to take down shields before they can damage the ship itself. There's no better example than the Bacta war, in which they used volleys of torpedoes to bring down the shields on Ait Convarion's Corruptor. I'd like shields to be more sci-fi realistic and in line with canon...
In any case it was just an idea, the mod is great in so many ways, and I was just wondering if the crew had contemplated this...
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I have to hand it to you, you do know your EU literature. You are right of course. I seem to have mistaken your meaning in your first post. Having the missiles do extensive damage to rather than just penetrating the shields outright would be much more in keeping with things.
I still maintain that the TIE Defender should be a LOT deadlier against fighters as well as capital ships.
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Truly if you wanted to be that canonical with the game it would make more sense to make it so ships have each of their hard points individually shielded rather than the entire ship having one big shield...
and i doubt that is even possible in EAW or even practical
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I like them like they are because they make bombers more different from fighters and means you have to use them differently
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Once in some comic about Akbar he destroyed an interdictor SD with one shot from a light freighter the size of the falcon.
Just sayin...
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Once in some comic about Akbar he destroyed an interdictor SD with one shot from a light freighter the size of the falcon.
Just sayin...
Once some kid from Tatooine destroyed a Death Star with two shots from an X-Wing.
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once an R2 unit destroyed the most powerful SSD ever built, the Imperial Throne World, the Galaxy Gun the Shadow Fleet and 99% of the Imperial Royal Guard with just a course altercation in a computer...
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I only wonder how the Shadow Fleet was destroyed when Byss exploded? Why no one ever noticed that there's sth going on veeeeery wrong with the planet?
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simple they were all watching star trek on TV and failed to notice huge chunks of planet coming at them. =D
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It happened very fast. Also the Emperor had just died...again and we all know the effect that has on Imperials...
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As the original poster of this topic, I find the divergence and subsequent conversation absolutely hilarious...
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As far as the fighters like the X-Wing and A-Wing getting torps or concs, the reason for this is to make the differences between the fighters and bombers more obvious (or just basically exist). The shield passability stuff is something we can go either way on.