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Posted by: DarthRevansRevenge
« on: December 08, 2016, 11:21:54 AM »

why do you want a Bellator? the New Republic gets capture units already, as explained above, and I'm pretty sure the new republic can get 2 executors in the corse of the mod in different story events PLUS the viscounts, which you can always remove the build limit for them if you want. why do you want more? the new republic liked hit-and-run tactics, and didn't want SSDs until shadow hand, and then developed their own. so, again, why do you want/need more?

it would be cool to have a sub-mod putting new republic logos on all captured ships though
Posted by: Corey
« on: November 22, 2016, 09:07:25 PM »

Giving the NR a free SSD just for taking a planet would not be a good idea.

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But the NR does rely on them a lot in canon.

The ISDs and VSDs used by the NR ones that had been captured, they never built them. We already have these represented with planet capture rewards, and they never made up a significant portion of the NR fleet, so we're not going to make them buildable. There are a few famous examples, and for whatever reason the EGW has that picture with a bunch of them (which is more reflective of Ansel loving ISDs than really representing what the NR used), but you can't really extrapolate that small group to the entirety of a faction. The New Republic has more than enough units that they actually produced available to them, giving ISDs to another faction on top of the 6 or 7 that already have them doesn't really do much for anyone, especially when, again, their only means to get them in universe were those that defected or were captured.


As far as an insignia on those that they do capture, we may get to them. The important thing to remember about the ones in Hunt for Zsinj, though, is the ISDs being used by the New Republic are not NR ISDs. They're still Imperial. The NR in that GC includes forces from all three allied groups, still owned and controlled by their original factions, not as co-opted parts of the New Republic.
Posted by: StarBornMichaelh165
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:00:50 AM »

Quote from: Revanchist on November 21, 2016, 01:47:07 AM
I cannot begin to express how terrible an idea this is. That would completely destroy the faction identity of the NR while simultaneously severely water down the identities of the Imperial factions. Now as capture bonuses from taking planets, sure (and that feature has been in TR for some time).
I meant as Capture able Untils like say You capture Kurt you get a Bellator and a few Captured Imperial Ships as Escorts for it.
Posted by: Revanchist
« on: November 21, 2016, 01:47:07 AM »

Quote from: StarBornMichaelh165 on November 20, 2016, 11:55:46 PM
First A yes in Era's 1-3 Can the New Republic Build ISD's 1's and 2's VSD's 1 and. 2's, Procursator, Gladiator And A few Bellator Star Destroyers for the NR too build ok.

I cannot begin to express how terrible an idea this is. That would completely destroy the faction identity of the NR while simultaneously severely water down the identities of the Imperial factions. Now as capture bonuses from taking planets, sure (and that feature has been in TR for some time).
Posted by: StarBornMichaelh165
« on: November 21, 2016, 12:15:04 AM »

And B If is just for hunt for Zsinj GC then I like to see the Imperial Capture Ships in other GC too Like In the Era 1-5 Ones and FTGU so the New Republic has more options in battle for those GC.
Posted by: StarBornMichaelh165
« on: November 20, 2016, 11:55:46 PM »

Quote from: Legostarwarseu on November 19, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
Just a small cosmetic suggestion - it would be good if Imperial and Victory-class Star Destroyers under New Republic control had New Republic insignia on them (like Lusankya does). The Essential Guide To Warfare has a great shot of seven or so New Republic Star Destroyers with red NR insignia on either side (including a Bellator-class as well in fact).

I reread the X-Wing series recently and it's striking how many New Republic fleets include or are built around captured ISDs and VSDs - would be nice to have their canonical markings if it isn't too much to add.

I play the B & F submod which does feature buildable VSDs and ISDs and can't remember if they are buildable for the NR in the base mod (barring Zsinj GCs.)  But the NR does rely on them a lot in canon.

So I suppose I'm asking:

1) Can NR ISDs and VSDs be buildable or at least present as starting units in some GCs?

2) Can they have a skin that features NR icons?

And maybe 3) any chance of including the Bellator-class that the New Republic captured?
First A yes in Era's 1-3 Can the New Republic Build ISD's 1's and 2's VSD's 1 and. 2's, Procursator, Gladiator And A few Bellator Star Destroyers for the NR too build ok.
Posted by: Kyle-Katarn67
« on: November 20, 2016, 08:30:24 PM »

I usually just mod them to the NR either way lol. 

The AI building limit doesnt concern me.
Posted by: kucsidave
« on: November 20, 2016, 09:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Legostarwarseu on November 20, 2016, 06:11:38 AM
Fair enough. Easy to add ISDs and VSDs to the NR in a submod anyway. When the next version comes out I might make a single Bellator buildable for the NR from Fondor or something like that.
but count on the AI not paying attention to the build limit at all
Posted by: Legostarwarseu
« on: November 20, 2016, 06:11:38 AM »

Fair enough. Easy to add ISDs and VSDs to the NR in a submod anyway. When the next version comes out I might make a single Bellator buildable for the NR from Fondor or something like that.
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: November 19, 2016, 08:57:47 PM »

Quote from: Legostarwarseu on November 19, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
Just a small cosmetic suggestion - it would be good if Imperial and Victory-class Star Destroyers under New Republic control had New Republic insignia on them (like Lusankya does). The Essential Guide To Warfare has a great shot of seven or so New Republic Star Destroyers with red NR insignia on either side (including a Bellator-class as well in fact).

I reread the X-Wing series recently and it's striking how many New Republic fleets include or are built around captured ISDs and VSDs - would be nice to have their canonical markings if it isn't too much to add.

I play the B & F submod which does feature buildable VSDs and ISDs and can't remember if they are buildable for the NR in the base mod (barring Zsinj GCs.)  But the NR does rely on them a lot in canon.

So I suppose I'm asking:

1) Can NR ISDs and VSDs be buildable or at least present as starting units in some GCs?

2) Can they have a skin that features NR icons?

And maybe 3) any chance of including the Bellator-class that the New Republic captured?

The logo is one of the possibilities of a Sub mod-not the main mod. it's very low priority though.
Posted by: GreyStar
« on: November 19, 2016, 07:00:01 PM »

Well, at least it had better apply to the Imp2 from Kuat lol. If they ever made it.
Posted by: kucsidave
« on: November 19, 2016, 06:23:12 PM »

damn auto-correct. I finally managed to change language to english and this is what I get...
Posted by: Revanchist
« on: November 19, 2016, 06:10:02 PM »

Quote from: kucsidave on November 19, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
The NR already has a full rooster

Those chickens are pretty stuffed indeed.

Joking aside, I agree with Dave 100%. It's just not worth the resources to create another skin for so little gain. Unless they plan on making it for an NR hero unit I doubt we will see it.
Posted by: kucsidave
« on: November 19, 2016, 05:15:54 PM »

1)They are only present at the Hunt for Zsinj GC because there the NR is in fact a combination of IR and NR forces.
2)making an entire skin around a unit featured in only one GC for that faction would take up precious time and resources from the team.
3)Not really.
In fact the reason not is in the same boat as the ISDs/VSDs. The NR already has a full rooster and those ships couldn't bring anything on the table what a new republic ship couldn't provide, although differently. If we would gave NR these ships as well, they would loose their uniqueness and become just another imperial copy-paste faction. In fact, in 2.2 Zsinj will kinda be a bridge between IR and NR, and that way NR will become a zsinj with more units.
Also the construction tabs are getting filled up and sometimes overflow in 2.1 already, so adding more units would only increase the problem. We don't want units to become unbuildable because you can't press the button for it.
Posted by: Legostarwarseu
« on: November 19, 2016, 04:54:37 PM »

Just a small cosmetic suggestion - it would be good if Imperial and Victory-class Star Destroyers under New Republic control had New Republic insignia on them (like Lusankya does). The Essential Guide To Warfare has a great shot of seven or so New Republic Star Destroyers with red NR insignia on either side (including a Bellator-class as well in fact).

I reread the X-Wing series recently and it's striking how many New Republic fleets include or are built around captured ISDs and VSDs - would be nice to have their canonical markings if it isn't too much to add.

I play the B & F submod which does feature buildable VSDs and ISDs and can't remember if they are buildable for the NR in the base mod (barring Zsinj GCs.)  But the NR does rely on them a lot in canon.

So I suppose I'm asking:

1) Can NR ISDs and VSDs be buildable or at least present as starting units in some GCs?

2) Can they have a skin that features NR icons?

And maybe 3) any chance of including the Bellator-class that the New Republic captured?
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