Posted by: Revanchist
« on: May 20, 2013, 11:53:27 AM »Sorry, but praying to god to make good video games is like asking god to help you win the lotto: it just doesn't work.
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: May 19, 2013, 10:29:51 PM »Pray to the god-gods you worship that it happens.
Hm, difficult as I believe in Nothing! To the Nothingness I pray!
Posted by: Corey
« on: May 19, 2013, 09:58:03 PM »Pray to me all you want, I can't make Disney do anything.
Posted by: mynameisyou
« on: May 19, 2013, 08:49:36 PM »Pray to the god-gods you worship that it happens.
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: May 19, 2013, 08:19:53 PM »I rather doubt it.
Posted by: Spartan1619
« on: May 19, 2013, 06:19:14 PM »Perhaps they can redeem themselves with star wars. I mean well all know we have been wanting a republic commando 2 
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: May 17, 2013, 10:00:59 PM »Indeed. If only we could clone the mod teams of the world and replace all stock at Lucasarts and Disney with their work.
Posted by: mynameisyou
« on: May 17, 2013, 08:24:39 PM »yes tis a shame
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: May 17, 2013, 04:10:48 PM »The Force Unleashed was decent but too repetitive. It could have been much better with more emphasis on lightsaber technique rather than hack and slash. Battlefront could also have been better. Basically most SW games within the last 8 years have been good potential but should have been much better
Posted by: Senza
« on: May 17, 2013, 12:37:50 PM »I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'd be more worried about this if Lucasarts hasn't been shit for the last several years. It's a horizontal move if anything. They were at least as cashcowwy as EA has been, but without the high notes of EA.
Agreed, the only game they've made in a long time I thought was any good was TFU, and that had a crappy sequel. Personally I think all these game studios are quite competent to the task and I'm looking forward to seeing what they give us. It doesn't really make sense for DICE to make anything other than Battlefront, seeing as they created Battlefield and Battlefront is basically a Battlefield spin-off. Admittedly there are some differences but I think DICE will be able to do a good job.
Posted by: Rovert10
« on: May 12, 2013, 10:00:33 AM »How so? The only recent blunder I can think of is Kinect Star Wars. We had 1313 coming out, as well as First Assault and Battlefront 3 if FA did well. I don't see how they're cashcowwy, either. Sure, there are a few stinkers like Republic Heroes, but they don't have any F2P titles (except for CWA, and that's Sony), they don't rehash the same thing every freaking year, they don't even make DLC for their games, for pete's sake! How could you possibly say that?Okay what was the last game that LucasArts made on their own as a development house that was actually worth paying for?
The recent Star Wars games worth paying for have all been outsourced to various other developers.
Also Force Unleashed had DLC as well as some others...
LucasArts is not innocent in this case.
The roles are reserved in that you're completely cynical of EA. I don't like their business practices either (dat SimCity shit) but doesn't mean i'll give them eternal damnation. They have good games no matter how much they milk them, the base games are still good.
Yet you have this blind affinity of LucasArts even though that golden age of them is well past.
Posted by: Kalo
« on: May 12, 2013, 01:37:48 AM »I'd like you to take a look at a little game called Battlefield Play4free and tell me how you feel about it after an hour. It probably won't have as much meaning to you as you probably never saw the game before EA decided it wasn't pulling its weight, but..
I've played every single Battlefield game in existence. Except Operation Eagle, which came before 1942 and isn't really Battlefield. Yes, p4f was awful. But every single Battlefield game I've played was exceptionally enjoyable. 1 bad game isn't going to have that much sway over my opinion of DICE, I assure you.
Anyway, I confess I liked ME3 and didn't have much of a problem with the ending. If you want to see the reasons people do there's plenty of sources online concerning it. But that's Bioware. I imagine if they had their way it'd be over after 3, but instead EA's making them create 4, something that's indubitably going to go awful. It'd be sorta like Halo 4 where it's set after what was supposed to be the last game in the franchise, but without the commitment of the fans that worked within the company. That's not to say Bioware doesn't like its own story, but I can't imagine they'll feel any compulsion to put as much thought into it as the first three titles..
Making them create 4? As I understand it, it's another game within the Mass Effect universe, not Mass Effect 4. There's nothing wrong with this idea. If there was, then technically Star Wars is a bad IP and we the TR team shouldn't making mods for it.
As for DICE making BFIII, I wouldn't have issue with that. Battlefront was originally a Battlefield ripoff in the first place (and objectively a rather poor one at that). What I do have an issue with is EA doing the publishing and making these stupid executive decisions that sacrifice the integrity of the game to pull some extra money in.
There hasn't been a DICE Game that I don't enjoy regardless of of EAs decisions.
Lastly, KOTOR. You do realize TOR was made by Bioware, riiiight? (and apparently is the KOTOR 3 campaign) The game they had to go F2P just a year or two after release because subscribers were leaving in troves? They're unlikely to make any other Old Republic title while that's still bringing in revenue.
Yes, I know it was made by them. It's a great game and the only Co-op RPG with interesting consequences for your actions.
Does this make ToR bad or something? Games going F2p in MMO format isn't bad in any shape or fashion. Just about every MMO has gone f2p and made droves of cash money. TOR apparently doubled its income just by going f2p.
Perhaps they won't release a KOTOR based title, but Bioware is still a great company. And I'm willing to try any Star Wars title they create.
Justified pessimism is always better than blind optimism. Hop on chat sometime so we can yell at each other, eh?
It's not blind optimism if all my past experiences with EA have been filled with fun and memorable moments.
How so? The only recent blunder I can think of is Kinect Star Wars. We had 1313 coming out, as well as First Assault and Battlefront 3 if FA did well. I don't see how they're cashcowwy, either. Sure, there are a few stinkers like Republic Heroes, but they don't have any F2P titles (except for CWA, and that's Sony), they don't rehash the same thing every freaking year, they don't even make DLC for their games, for pete's sake! How could you possibly say that?
They rushed out EaW/FoC, causing a slew of features to be cut. Like Diplomacy, 35 units that Petroglyph admitted existed, and 3 way galactic conquest.
KOTOR 2 was rushed in favor of Christmas sales due to how popular the first one was. And because of that we lost so much content and narrative direction.
LA Also cut Battlefront 3 in favor of the handheld version of Battlefront
TFU 2 was also made out of nowhere, rushed, and then simplified so they could make a quick buck.
There is nothing wrong with DLC. Yes, there are some notable cases where developers are bad about it. But keep in mind that EA is by no means the worst.
Posted by: Tiel
« on: May 11, 2013, 05:47:44 PM »Now, if EA has DICE Make the new Battlefront? Holy shit I'll be excited. And if we get another KOTOR Esque title because it was given to Bioware? Man, that'll be the fucking best. I don't know about you guys, but I am excited for the titles they might release.
I'd like you to take a look at a little game called Battlefield Play4free and tell me how you feel about it after an hour. It probably won't have as much meaning to you as you probably never saw the game before EA decided it wasn't pulling its weight, but..
Anyway, I confess I liked ME3 and didn't have much of a problem with the ending. If you want to see the reasons people do there's plenty of sources online concerning it. But that's Bioware. I imagine if they had their way it'd be over after 3, but instead EA's making them create 4, something that's indubitably going to go awful. It'd be sorta like Halo 4 where it's set after what was supposed to be the last game in the franchise, but without the commitment of the fans that worked within the company. That's not to say Bioware doesn't like its own story, but I can't imagine they'll feel any compulsion to put as much thought into it as the first three titles..
As for DICE making BFIII, I wouldn't have issue with that. Battlefront was originally a Battlefield ripoff in the first place (and objectively a rather poor one at that). What I do have an issue with is EA doing the publishing and making these stupid executive decisions that sacrifice the integrity of the game to pull some extra money in.
Lastly, KOTOR. You do realize TOR was made by Bioware, riiiight? (and apparently is the KOTOR 3 campaign) The game they had to go F2P just a year or two after release because subscribers were leaving in troves? They're unlikely to make any other Old Republic title while that's still bringing in revenue.
Justified pessimism is always better than blind optimism. Hop on chat sometime so we can yell at each other, eh?
@Corey
How so? The only recent blunder I can think of is Kinect Star Wars. We had 1313 coming out, as well as First Assault and Battlefront 3 if FA did well. I don't see how they're cashcowwy, either. Sure, there are a few stinkers like Republic Heroes, but they don't have any F2P titles (except for CWA, and that's Sony), they don't rehash the same thing every freaking year, they don't even make DLC for their games, for pete's sake! How could you possibly say that?
Posted by: Corey
« on: May 11, 2013, 02:16:23 AM »Lucas might've been very detached from his community, but having the mantle given to such a disreputable company like Electronic Arts is much worse than mere inactivity. If I'm wrong, and it decides not to screw Star Wars up the bum like all its other series, then I'm wrong. But I find that extremely unlikely given their stellar track record over the past three years, and their seeming discovery as of late that people are willing to put up with microtransactions within retail-priced titles.
I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'd be more worried about this if Lucasarts hasn't been shit for the last several years. It's a horizontal move if anything. They were at least as cashcowwy as EA has been, but without the high notes of EA.
Posted by: Kalo
« on: May 10, 2013, 09:55:38 PM »My favorite EA Games are the Battlefield Series, Mass Effect, and the first Dragon Age. I own all of those games sans DA 2 and I can say they've all performed very well.
Now, if EA has DICE Make the new Battlefront? Holy shit I'll be excited. And if we get another KOTOR Esque title because it was given to Bioware? Man, that'll be the fucking best. I don't know about you guys, but I am excited for the titles they might release.
Now, if EA has DICE Make the new Battlefront? Holy shit I'll be excited. And if we get another KOTOR Esque title because it was given to Bioware? Man, that'll be the fucking best. I don't know about you guys, but I am excited for the titles they might release.