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Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 07, 2017, 12:56:06 PM »

Oh and did it replaced a ship in that slot?
I don't think so. There wasn't really much in between a Cap-Ship and Heavy Frigate for the NR in 2.1 until era 4.
Posted by: HobbesHurlbut
« on: April 07, 2017, 12:41:30 PM »

It's basically the same length as the Liberty.  It was put in as a cruiser instead of a capital ship because the NR needed cruisers more than capital ships, and they're not as iconic as the MonCal line of capitals.
Oh and did it replaced a ship in that slot? If not, I understand what Corey meant when he said if Dreadnaught was removed, it wouldn't be replaced by another ship.
Posted by: tlmiller
« on: April 07, 2017, 12:10:31 PM »

It's basically the same length as the Liberty.  It was put in as a cruiser instead of a capital ship because the NR needed cruisers more than capital ships, and they're not as iconic as the MonCal line of capitals.
Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:44:11 AM »

Oh I thought Dauntless was a capital ship considering her fluff describing her as 2nd largest cruiser in the fleet and being over a kilometer long.
It certainly looks like a capital ship. It looks larger than the MC80 Liberty.
Posted by: HobbesHurlbut
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:00:04 AM »

Have you not played the demo? The Dauntless was added and it's buildable from the Heavy Frigate shipyard, though it isn't great. The only other ship I know they're adding in 2.2 is the Republic-Class Star Destroyer, though that's a capital ship.
Oh I thought Dauntless was a capital ship considering her fluff describing her as 2nd largest cruiser in the fleet and being over a kilometer long.
Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 06, 2017, 07:05:48 PM »

is 2.2 adding to the roster? Will we have another ship that at least have a few ion cannons in Light or Heavy Frigate shipyard?
Have you not played the demo? The Dauntless was added and it's buildable from the Heavy Frigate shipyard, though it isn't great. The only other ship I know they're adding in 2.2 is the Republic-Class Star Destroyer, though that's a capital ship.
Posted by: HobbesHurlbut
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:56:38 PM »

If we remove the Dreadnaught for them, it wouldn't be replaced. Their roster is pretty loaded as is.
is 2.2 adding to the roster? Will we have another ship that at least have a few ion cannons in Light or Heavy Frigate shipyard?
Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:51:00 PM »

Well the NR can't exactly have a BAC available pre Era 5. It'll be better in full 2.2 if Ascendancy is anything to go by.
I hope so. Playing NR in the demo is 45% using Imperial ships, 35% using Hapan ships, and 20% using the only decent NR cruisers in the demo. I don't even waste my time building fighter squadrons as cruisers that carry fighters are actually victory-relevant.
Posted by: GreyStar
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:32:47 PM »

Well the NR can't exactly have a BAC available pre Era 5. It'll be better in full 2.2 if Ascendancy is anything to go by.
Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:02:51 PM »

Why aren't we using the Dauntless Cruiser? It has ion cannons and in Ascendancy it has enough room for an X-Wing squadron. No need to replace the Dreadnaught if we have that in the demo.
The Dauntless in the demo is messed up. It currently has a hangar and is supposed to drop 2 X-Wing squadrons and 1 Y-Wing squadron (according to the text tooltip, but the code only gives it 2 X-Wing squadrons), but the hardpoint is broken somehow and the game doesn't think it exists so it ends up not having any fighter support. The Dauntless acts more like a fast tank and as far as damage goes, it ranges from underwhelming - average.
Posted by: Corey
« on: April 06, 2017, 05:41:13 PM »

If the mod team can fix the Assault Frigate's armament to match Saga Edition loadout (a very good depiction), they can justify swapping out the Dreadnaught for another ship. (Heavy Frigate shipyard slot).

Edited: Hrm well, giving NR access to Carrack can be justified. It was widespread like Dreadnaught (as Assault Frigate in NR hands) and it is tough and fast which supplement the starfighters very well enough. The only reasons that I brought up Carrack is so the team doesn't have to develop a new model and both factions did use it.

If we remove the Dreadnaught for them, it wouldn't be replaced. Their roster is pretty loaded as is.
Posted by: GreyStar
« on: April 06, 2017, 12:25:15 PM »

Why aren't we using the Dauntless Cruiser? It has ion cannons and in Ascendancy it has enough room for an X-Wing squadron. No need to replace the Dreadnaught if we have that in the demo.
Posted by: HobbesHurlbut
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:11:43 AM »

If the mod team can fix the Assault Frigate's armament to match Saga Edition loadout (a very good depiction), they can justify swapping out the Dreadnaught for another ship. (Heavy Frigate shipyard slot).

Edited: Hrm well, giving NR access to Carrack can be justified. It was widespread like Dreadnaught (as Assault Frigate in NR hands) and it is tough and fast which supplement the starfighters very well enough. The only reasons that I brought up Carrack is so the team doesn't have to develop a new model and both factions did use it.
Posted by: Helix345
« on: April 06, 2017, 07:40:49 AM »

I'm pretty sure that they have a proficient class in ascendancy.
Posted by: Bucman55
« on: April 05, 2017, 11:45:34 PM »

This description made me laugh so hard and I don't know why.

I personally think that the nr could swap out a ship for something a little more ionic. The battle dragons fill the role pretty well but are only available in hunt for zinji (as far as I know).
Actually you can get some for free by taking Hapes in any GC it's present in. As for an ionic frigate... Maybe the CC-9600 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-9600_frigate or the Liberator-Clas Cruiser http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator-class_cruiser, though the latter may be more of a capital ship. Also if they don't mind making up a new ship design, they could do the Proficient-Class Cruiser : http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Proficient-class_cruiser for later eras (4-5).
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