Posted by: vadereclipse
« on: March 31, 2008, 03:33:00 PM »actually, ships like the flurry which was at bakura held more fighters than home 1, although its purpose was a mobile hangar.
Posted by: Re4_wesker
« on: March 31, 2008, 03:26:01 PM »I would like to point out that the smaller the ship the less fighters it can carry unless the ship is designed specifically for fighter deployment. so star destroyers would still have some effectiveness.
if a ship was only designed for fighter deployement their armanents would be light and therefore it would need a convoy or escort ships to help defend it. An imperial Star Destroyer can carry a good amount of fighters while still having the firepower to back it up.
if a ship was only designed for fighter deployement their armanents would be light and therefore it would need a convoy or escort ships to help defend it. An imperial Star Destroyer can carry a good amount of fighters while still having the firepower to back it up.
Posted by: vadereclipse
« on: March 31, 2008, 03:22:02 PM »in the rogue squadrron games, they did over kothilis. i believe it is canon.Let me rephrase that. The Chimera was kicking the Turbulent-class SDs asses in that fight.
actually the Chimaera didn't fight against Bloodfin. and no way even rogue squadron would destroy ISD on their own. 1 ISD carries some 60 fighters. I'm not counting the bombers which bring the number to 72.
and Thrawn was able to bring total chaos on heavily destroyed ship yard with just one modified bulk cruiser and 50 mole miners plus some 40 ties.
Posted by: Meyer
« on: March 31, 2008, 03:12:49 PM »Let me rephrase that. The Chimera was kicking the Turbulent-class SDs asses in that fight.
actually the Chimaera didn't fight against Bloodfin. and no way even rogue squadron would destroy ISD on their own. 1 ISD carries some 60 fighters. I'm not counting the bombers which bring the number to 72.
and Thrawn was able to bring total chaos on heavily destroyed ship yard with just one modified bulk cruiser and 50 mole miners plus some 40 ties.
Posted by: Dane Kiet
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:29:59 PM »Thousands of fighters, not capitals. Unless you are talking about the Vagaari, in which case, he used all those droid starfighters and C'baoth's use of the force. Does not count.
Posted by: Isamu
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:22:18 PM »look at wat thrawn was able to do with a mere 100 meter long ship against thousands of ships.
Posted by: Dane Kiet
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:16:15 PM »And the Rogues never actually kill even a Vic by themselves. They always have support when they kill something that size. They didn't kill The Vic in Bacta Wars until the Alderaanian War Frigate showed up.
Posted by: vadereclipse
« on: March 31, 2008, 02:13:30 PM »i doubt an enemy ship of anything larger than a small frigate could get to the defence screen. as soon as it is evident that the enemy ship is heading there, it is focused on, and on the whole, destroyed.
Posted by: Isamu
« on: March 31, 2008, 01:55:04 PM »yes it was mainly rogue squadron but many other squadrons did the same thing. it was too much for the imperials to lose 35,000 approximate crew and a very expensive star destroyer to 12 pilots with a few proton torpedoes. also the ability to move through a battlefield is very essential to winning. slug fights usually end with the winning side heavily damaged. if you can slip into the enemy defense screen, you can do unimaginable damage. that is what the turbulent class is for. and also the chimaera was defending the turbulent class that was there which was the bloodfin. because pellaeon was onboard and after he died, she was trying to capture the ship.
Posted by: vadereclipse
« on: March 31, 2008, 01:51:44 PM »you mean rogue squadron taking down ISDs. big difference. rogue squadron=elite pilots.So the IR made one small powerful ship, and that leads you to the conclusion that big ships are no longer any good?no its just that tactics had moved on from pure slug matches. mainly impart of the rebellion taking down isd's with only 12 x-wing grouped attacks.
generic squadrons: people with minimal training. (to an extent, the rebels would have taken what they could, i mean luke qwas admitted after a few hour's training.)
Posted by: Isamu
« on: March 31, 2008, 01:13:49 PM »So the IR made one small powerful ship, and that leads you to the conclusion that big ships are no longer any good?no its just that tactics had moved on from pure slug matches. mainly impart of the rebellion taking down isd's with only 12 x-wing grouped attacks. and the chimera had a special weapon that gave it an advantage. the phase shifter.
Posted by: Dane Kiet
« on: March 31, 2008, 10:25:01 AM »Let me rephrase that. The Chimera was kicking the Turbulent-class SDs asses in that fight.
Posted by: Meyer
« on: March 31, 2008, 09:53:31 AM »Turbulent-class SD was designed as smaller and more maneuverable variant SD than ISD.
Posted by: Dane Kiet
« on: March 31, 2008, 09:05:47 AM »Isamu, it packed the punch of an ISD in a smaller package, but then they could build a new ship just as large as the normal Impstars with even more firepower. Just because they made a smaller vessel doesn't mean larger one are obsolete. Besides, the Chimera was an outdated ISD with some new toys that was kicking ass.
Posted by: vadereclipse
« on: March 31, 2008, 07:38:22 AM »but big ships generally are cost-effective.
i mean, i'll give you that eclipses and sovereigns were not cost-effective, but executors and ISDs were very cost-effective.
i mean, i'll give you that eclipses and sovereigns were not cost-effective, but executors and ISDs were very cost-effective.