Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:56:39 PM »once again. well the american ohio-class is also very impressive sub but not as impressive as typhoon in my mind.
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:51:44 PM »Why do you think they attacked? because of rocket strikes and terrorism from Lebanon
And this is way off topic
And this is way off topic
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:47:34 PM »like what? OIL!
And it was Israel that attacked Lebanon this year. and killed UN peacekeepers. that's unfogivable.
And it was Israel that attacked Lebanon this year. and killed UN peacekeepers. that's unfogivable.
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:46:31 PM »Every country fights Israel just as much, if not more, they're just pissed Israel is a country
And there was reason, maybe not amazingly good reasons, but there were reasons
And there was reason, maybe not amazingly good reasons, but there were reasons
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:44:18 PM »well I don't see Nk or Iran picking a fight. only one picking a fight is usa.
israel causes big problems in Middle-East. they fight against every coutnry they share border. And I was a big usa fan once. all that changed after Afghanistan and Iraq. you attacked those countries without reason. but as soon as some other country tries the same that's a big NO. you have to realize that no matter who powerful the same rules still apply to you. maybe if usa no day pulls back from iraq and afghanistan and starts to do the right things I'll start to like usa again.
israel causes big problems in Middle-East. they fight against every coutnry they share border. And I was a big usa fan once. all that changed after Afghanistan and Iraq. you attacked those countries without reason. but as soon as some other country tries the same that's a big NO. you have to realize that no matter who powerful the same rules still apply to you. maybe if usa no day pulls back from iraq and afghanistan and starts to do the right things I'll start to like usa again.
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:39:10 PM »Iwas saying they think that if they get in a fight with anyone, they will win
And what have the US and Israel done that they need to be stopped for?
And what have the US and Israel done that they need to be stopped for?
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:33:48 PM »well they can't be stopped because they haven't done anything. only two countries that needs to be stopped are israel and usa.
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:27:18 PM »The nuclear fear thing doesn't work anymore, too many retards with power thinking they cant be stopped, like Iran and NK
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 04:16:51 PM »what do you mean won't be fired? They will be fired if needed. Only reason that any country these days makes or keeps nukes is the fear they instill to others. And I too would be patriotic but there aren't any finnish submarines in ther so. I say Typhoon because it's large, well protected by double hull and has a very large number of warheads.
Posted by: Slornie
« on: October 27, 2007, 03:23:40 PM »Im going to be patriotic and say the Vanguard 
And in any case, more nukes that wont be fired isnt really an advantage..
And in any case, more nukes that wont be fired isnt really an advantage..
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 02:57:04 PM »well i was going by missles
and it doesn't really matter, neither Ohio or Typhoon are really any better than each other
and it doesn't really matter, neither Ohio or Typhoon are really any better than each other
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 02:53:39 PM »it carries some 190 nukes in 24 missiles. while russian Akula (NATO name: Typhoon) carries 200 nuclear warheads in 20 missiles. bigger sub, more missiles and warheads. Vanguard has up to 128 warheads and Le Triomphant carries 96. so if you go by number of nukes Typhoon wins. but that ain't the only factor. at least for me.
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 02:48:07 PM »all the others im pretty sure
Posted by: Meyer
« on: October 27, 2007, 02:38:56 PM »more nukes than?
Posted by: Scarecrow63
« on: October 27, 2007, 02:38:29 PM »Ohio, only cause it carried more nukes