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The severely disappointing story in Disney/EA's Battlefront II (spoilers)
Mitthrawnuruodo:
So to summarise, what people wanted was a story akin to the original Battlefront 2 which showed us the perspective of a clone trooper who fought all the way through the Clone Wars, the rise of the Empire, and the Galactic Civil War up to the Battle of Hoth. We got to see how the Republic became the Empire and what that meant for the soldiers. What people wanted in Disney/EA's Battlefront II was the same treatment for the post-Endor Empire, to show us the story of a soldier sticking with the Empire through 30 years worth of history to become the First Order. In terms of the material of canon we know so far, even though there's the whole thing about the Empire disappearing and not causing much trouble for that time, I say there was still potential to tell that kind of story, especially with Inferno Squad, a Special Forces team.
However, there were others who had a prediction; that the player character would defect. They were right. And we didn't get to see how the Empire became the First Order at all. The story goes from Endor, does Operation Cinder as depicted in the Shattered Empire comics, does the Battle of Jakku and then skips to just before The Force Awakens to an abrupt cliffhanger ending. So there's no new key plot points to the timeline in Battlefront 2, it just covers what's already been depicted in other material with a personal story tacked on. So if you were expecting the rise of the First Order, you haven't got it. Basically what you've got is Shattered Empire the game.
Illidan Stormrage:
I was pretty pissed off actually. I never felt so misled and overhyped about a story that had never been done before. I was so happy to finally get A Imperial perspective, more specifically one of a Imperial who is loyal without question. Except that isn't what we got. What we got is another defection story, which I did not want. What made this worse is that the trailers have shown things like Iden giving a speech to Imperials on Vardos about how "Hope cannot save them.", Star killer base with Iden saying over "I have waited 30 years for this", That shot of Del Meeko aiming his blaster at Luke Skywalker, and one showing a imperial fleet taking off into hyperspace.
I also like to mention that the Behind the secenes trailer showed some more interesting things such as: a early animation of Iden, Gideon, Del, and some stormtroopers bordering a shuttle whiling firing back at rebels attacking them, another showed Hask's voice actor is mocap angary pointing and shouting with Iden's voice actor who was also in Mocap.
Not only that this breaks the canon lore established in the novel and in other medias. In the book it is stated that Garrick Versio is more loyal to Vardos then the Empire, and that he cares about his daughter(he doesn't show it, but he violated Imperial protocol for her). Another thing is that Iden shows no evidence of betraying the Empire even in the books. In fact she is so scared of being undercover as a traitor, because she fears in disappointing her mother. Also Seyn died for Inferno Squadron and the Empire which makes Iden and Del's betrayal less believe able by the minute. Another problem is that Garrick Veriso's fleet shouldn't be refueling at Bespin since it is ruled by a former-Imperial Governor turned Warlord Adheard, who made his own independent imperial faction and formed the Iron Blockaded. That is technically a different faction controlling that region. Also why do they even join the rebellion? If they left the Empire shouldn't they just have deserted or Joined Rae Slaone in order to stop Operation Cinder? Also why doesn't the rebellion just execute Iden and Del for all the damage they had done to the rebellion? Also why is Vardos now Buddy-Buddy with the First Order? and what is project resurrection? Is Iden going to be cloned? It just doesn't make any sense, and I wish we just had that Imperial POV campaign.
What makes Iden's betrayl less believable is Gideon Hask, and Iden Veriso being such good friends yet Gideon not questioning the pain Iden feels at seeinf her world destroyed. After all in the book Gideon had a meltdown thinking Iden had perish during the battle of Yavin. It just doesn't work.
However I now have a new question: Could Rey's parents possibly be Iden Versio and Del Meeko? Just saying it is possible.
In fact I also blame this on the whole concept of Operation: Cinder which is really stupid concept, and doesn't work. Why the fuck are any of these Imperials listening to these messages? The fact that we know the Empire was planning counter attacks this doesn't make any fucking sense. People like Levelcapgaming, Star wars Explained, and Generation Tech have all complained about this element of the story. Those stupid aftermath, and shattered Empire nonsense ruined a lot of potential and therefore screw over this campaign.
I will say however to the game's credit, I like the missions where you with The Empire. The Battle of Fondor was fun and great so was the Mission on Endor. I also do like Iden Versio and Del Meeko's relationship. I just loved the character performances, but not the story.
Mitthrawnuruodo:
I think I can understand what the story group's rationale behind Operation Cinder is. I believe the 30 years of nothing really interesting happening is a deliberate method of sectioning-off eras. I imagine they wanted to avoid the scenario of the old Expanded Universe where post-Endor was up for grabs by multiple authors all contradicting each other. So they wanted to punch a void in the timeline where nothing happens, and that means they need the Empire out of the picture very quickly. So they have the Empire commit suicide then disappear in one year, and then nothing really interesting happens until the Resistance and First Order get at each other so you've got neatly sectioned definable eras. Hence why Battlefront II jumps from Jakku to the First Order, because I imagine the story writers were specifically told not to put anything in between.
taupin121:
--- Quote from: Illidan Stormrage on November 14, 2017, 09:34:08 PM ---However I now have a new question: Could Rey's parents possibly be Iden Versio and Del Meeko? Just saying it is possible.
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--- Quote from: Mitthrawnuruodo on November 15, 2017, 05:38:44 AM ---I imagine they wanted to avoid the scenario of the old Expanded Universe where post-Endor was up for grabs by multiple authors all contradicting each other.
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The few contradictions were worth considering the quality of the stories.
Anyway I felt like you guys, Disney are the specialists as making hype (via teaser and trailer) over something that's end being awful (TFA, every seasons of Rebels,...) and sadly that's apply to BF II too. I fell for it like everyone, also thanks to the promising novel. It's depressing how much of bad content we had lately.
tlmiller:
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad I didn't preorder. And looks like I'll have no reason to purchase now that I know the story sucks and I have no desire to play pay-to-win.
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