Thrawn's Revenge

Mod & Network News => News, Dev Diaries & Announcements => Topic started by: Corey on January 13, 2018, 11:42:14 AM

Title: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Corey on January 13, 2018, 11:42:14 AM
That's right, the time has finally come for us to tell you all when the time will finally come for you to be able to play Imperial Civil War 2.2. As usual, this news post is available in both text and video form:

https://youtu.be/lgLNW7z-mB4

Before we go any further, I do want to stress that everything you're about to see is a tentative guideline, not a guarantee. We can't see the future, so we don't know what circumstances will come up, but we're fairly confident in what we have planned.

That being said, as we've discussed in previous updates, the testing of the mod will be handled in a few progressively more open phases. We've been testing the mod internally and with the permanent testers as we've gone, so there's a lot of issues which have been caught and dealt with already, but broader pools of testers make it far easier to test the less common occurrences and figure out things like balance issues, while exposing as few people as possible to the more major issues that tend to come up at the beginning of any testing phase. The goal with this structure is to find the easiest way to get a progressively bigger testing pool while allowing the dev team to focus on actually developing the mod, as opposed to herding a bunch of testers or trying to manually select a huge pool of potential testers.

With that goal in mind, the first bit of open testing will take place on the official Thrawn's Revenge forums (http://thrawnsrevenge.com/forums/index.php) in the Admiral's Lounge section. This is a post-restricted board, which requires 25 posts to access. It can be accessed whether you've posted 25 times before, or during the testing period- there is no cutoff date beyond the end of testing. We know there are plenty of people who love the mod and have been just as if not more active in other places, whether that's ModDB, Discord, YouTube comments on Corey Loses, or the Steam Workshop, but the point of this is not to somehow reward or punish anyone for activity or lack thereof- as I said above, this is the simplest way for us to get a narrower but still considerable starting pool of testers that requires the least direct management by the team so we can focus on the more important bits of actually developing the mod. This is about testing it and making it as bug-free and ready for widespread play as possible, not about rewarding anyone with early access or something like that. The forums also provide the best platform to handle the posting of feedback (which is far, far less manageable in the instant-message or comment thread style of, say Discord or Steam), distribution of instructions, patch notes, and the other bits that actually go into testing. This is also not an invitation to spam, which will just annoy us and put us off of doing any sort of open testing in the future if it becomes a problem. When we've done similar testing methods in the past, some people have either tried to spam their way in, or protested that it's unfair, which is why I again reiterate, this is not about who does or doesn't deserve access or something, testing is a very important part of development, and this is the way that lets us maximize feedback and minimize how much effort goes into managing and collecting that feedback instead of actually working on the mod and acting on that feedback. We promise, we are doing our best to make sure 2.2 is as enjoyable as we can make it, and we want as many people to be able to enjoy it as possible, as soon as possible, but we need your cooperation in this

The planned date for the testing to begin in the Admiral's Lounge is:
February 15th.

From here, we'll be testing for around 2-3 weeks in that stage as necessary to work out all the major issues that we can, and finalize any of the content that's still being worked on. Once we have all of that done, we'll be opening the testing board to all forum members to continue on with any balancing changes, bug fixes, etc. Once we're confident that we've sorted out everything we reasonably can, we'll be moving on from there to the final, full release of the mod. Currently we plan to have a version uploaded to ModDB, EaW Nexus, and we'll update the 2.15 Steam Workshop copy (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1125571106) to 2.2, so if you haven't subscribed to that, make sure to do so. The Demo workshop item will be removed near the end of testing. Once the testing process is over, we plan to ask a few of the people who contribute feedback and bug reports during the process to stay on as permanent internal testers for our projects going forward.

Our target date for this final release is:
March 29th, 2018

Around that time, we'll start posting about our plans with 2.3 and Ascendancy 1.2, some of which has already started, as well as have a lot more information and content about Fall of the Republic, our Clone Wars-era mod. That's it for now though.

- The Thrawn's Revenge Team
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Ordo on January 13, 2018, 11:54:10 AM
The thursday release meme is actually happening.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Corey on January 13, 2018, 12:24:20 PM
Thursday really is the best day to release the mod. It gets it out for all timezones before their weekend starts, and it gives us a day to put out any fires so people still have a whole weekend if they wanna play.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: taupin121 on January 13, 2018, 02:13:40 PM

Awesome news, I am very looking forward to it !
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Slornie on January 13, 2018, 03:42:49 PM
Can we ask Ted if Petroglyph can release a new patch for EAW that Thursday too? Then we can spend all weekend fighting Steam/Workshop fires as well as anything actually mod-related!  :angel:
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Beznerds on January 13, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
I am sooooo looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Illidan Stormrage on January 13, 2018, 11:35:40 PM
Any information on what content will be included at the start of testing?
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Corey on January 13, 2018, 11:48:30 PM
Everything except FTGU, Bacta War, Isard's Revenge, Crimson Empire, Reunification, and Final Imperial Push. Some of those may also be there.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: rednax on January 15, 2018, 02:10:45 AM
Yum
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Labria on January 15, 2018, 10:26:41 AM
Good news. Finally, new version is so close. 8=)
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: AppTRL on January 15, 2018, 01:41:51 PM
Been looking forward to this for awhile now  :)
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: yutpaeksi on January 16, 2018, 08:39:52 AM
Thanks for the update Corey! Looking forward to the first round of testing.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: StarBornMichaelh165 on January 17, 2018, 04:44:45 AM
Ok i am SO look forward to this mod....
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Taessi on January 18, 2018, 04:45:26 AM
I am excited!
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Skyhammer on January 18, 2018, 08:44:17 PM
Dang, now I wish I didn't just lurk on the forums so often. Oh well, good to see that things are on track.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: the_trots on January 22, 2018, 05:09:39 PM
Will testing be open to anyone with admirals lounge access?
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Corey on January 22, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Grand Admiral Rufaan Tigellinus on January 23, 2018, 04:30:05 PM
Wow, this made my day. Thanks Corey, you're the ultimate mood-lifter!
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Mr.Puerto on January 23, 2018, 05:12:40 PM
Very exciting times!
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Illidan Stormrage on January 23, 2018, 09:00:41 PM
Wow, this made my day. Thanks Corey, you're the ultimate mood-lifter!
Mod-lifter? :)
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: fireball900 on January 25, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
Well, time for me to make an account and stop lurking then :D
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: StarBornMichaelh165 on February 02, 2018, 12:58:42 PM
Thursday really is the best day to release the mod. It gets it out for all timezones before their weekend starts, and it gives us a day to put out any fires so people still have a whole weekend if they wanna play.
So just what is about Thursday that good for Release dates. Oh and when can we Admirals Start Playing the Beta to start Testing?
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Bucman55 on February 02, 2018, 01:48:34 PM
So just what is about Thursday that good for Release dates. Oh and when can we Admirals Start Playing the Beta to start Testing?

Did you read the actual news post? It's there in big bold letters.

February 15th
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Slornie on February 02, 2018, 05:13:30 PM
So just what is about Thursday that good for Release dates.
Amongst other reasons, it means the mod is available for everyone to enjoy for the whole weekend. If we released on Friday in Corey's timezone it'd be the middle of the weekend at the other side of the world!
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: ErikModi on February 02, 2018, 08:47:41 PM
Still on track for that February 15th, I presume?  I noticed it said "subject to change," which is understandable, but no mention of a change thus far, so I gather everything is proceeding as foreseen?
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: StarBornMichaelh165 on February 03, 2018, 12:51:59 AM
Amongst other reasons, it means the mod is available for everyone to enjoy for the whole weekend. If we released on Friday in Corey's timezone it'd be the middle of the weekend at the other side of the world!
Ah makes sense
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Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Corey on February 03, 2018, 07:29:28 AM
Still on track for that February 15th, I presume?  I noticed it said "subject to change," which is understandable, but no mention of a change thus far, so I gather everything is proceeding as foreseen?

So far, yes.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Schr├Ąge Musik on February 04, 2018, 01:47:01 PM
Awesome! Sounds like this will substantially improve a mod that is already great.
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Lukii0141 on February 04, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
Great! Looking forward to the Release
Title: Re: [ICW] Testing Process & Release Date
Post by: Grand Admiral Jeff on February 04, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
Only some days left till the testing starts!