Thrawn's Revenge

Off Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Meyer on July 31, 2007, 05:43:14 PM

Title: Military service
Post by: Meyer on July 31, 2007, 05:43:14 PM
So which one do YOU think is a better one? *poins finger to everyone who is reading this post*
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Slornie on August 01, 2007, 05:13:50 AM
I think both compulsory and voluntary service have their merits.  Although i prefer a voluntary system, since it is freedom of choice for the people.  On the other hand, compulsory service seems to work very well in Switzerland.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 01, 2007, 05:21:52 AM
I think compulsory service is good because it teaches discipline. I don't think that not many who have been in the army go to the streets and and become junkies. But for a large country with big military budget, like USA, I think that it is better to have voluntary service. But for a small country with low budget, like Finland, compulsory military service is a must. It helped us during the World War II.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 01, 2007, 11:19:16 PM
No one in the army became a junkie? You havent seen some US vietnam vets haave you?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Tyrant on August 01, 2007, 11:20:37 PM
He's from Finland, so probably not.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: junot on August 02, 2007, 01:24:23 AM
And if you read one of his posts he said that he thought voluntary service was best for America, and he said that the expierence in his country the junkie ratio is less.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 02, 2007, 04:09:38 AM
some may become junkies but I think that it isn't so likely if you go to the army. And vietnam war veterans were all pissed because from their point of view they were betrayed by their country during the war.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 02, 2007, 10:19:13 AM
Finland has a military?????????
Volintary
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 02, 2007, 10:36:06 AM
It depends on the need for service. If it is a large scale war then compulsory, but for a war like in Iraq, voluntary.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 02, 2007, 10:43:51 AM
I think both compulsory and voluntary service have their merits.  Although i prefer a voluntary system, since it is freedom of choice for the people.  On the other hand, compulsory service seems to work very well in Switzerland.

Switzerland is neutral, so how do we know how well it works?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 02, 2007, 10:51:58 AM
Finland has a military?????????
Volintary

Yes Finland has military. It is Sweden that doesn't have military, according to Bush.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 02, 2007, 05:38:59 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH suprising  :P
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 02, 2007, 05:49:46 PM
I always get coonfused with Scandanavia but i have been trying to refrain from that so i dont offend people.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 03, 2007, 07:33:04 AM
What is so confusing in Scandinavia?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Noret on August 03, 2007, 06:37:31 PM
sweedes and the swiss people over here get them mixed up some times me thinks
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2007, 09:44:28 PM
What is so confusing in Scandinavia?

Well they all look the same on a map, and Finland And Sweden sound similar.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 03, 2007, 09:45:40 PM
wth, finland and sweden? wow
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2007, 11:19:45 PM
Back on topic. Having a draft military service is wrong. It takes away our freedom. For those of you who live in the U.S., that is. Roosevelt purposely left our ships in Pearl Harbor so we would have a reason to enter the war. He issued the draft to give the poverty a way to earn money. Dont say, "Wheres your proof," cause somebody found a transmission warning us to get out.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 03, 2007, 11:34:53 PM
stfu raptor, he didnt leave them there purposely and he issued the draft because we needed troops to fight
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2007, 11:39:30 PM
Ehh... wrong. and what does stfu mean?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 04, 2007, 03:14:00 AM
Back on topic. Having a draft military service is wrong. It takes away our freedom. For those of you who live in the U.S., that is. Roosevelt purposely left our ships in Pearl Harbor so we would have a reason to enter the war. He issued the draft to give the poverty a way to earn money. Dont say, "Wheres your proof," cause somebody found a transmission warning us to get out.

I haven't heard of that. where did you get that information? your history lesson? Wouldn't it be stupid to sacrifice your fleet like that? And let me answer my own question: YES!. And now back to the topic that is military service.


What is so confusing in Scandinavia?

Well they all look the same on a map, and Finland And Sweden sound similar.
And how does Finland and Sweden sound similar? Do you have a hearing problem?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 04, 2007, 01:23:55 PM
where did you get that information?

My great uncle who fought in Iwo Jima. And my grandpa.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 04, 2007, 02:26:11 PM
Who are you talking this time. and what info are you referring to?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 04, 2007, 04:58:37 PM
i am talking to Ju my friend.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 04, 2007, 05:43:18 PM
right. and what information did you mean when you asked where did I got it.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 04, 2007, 06:15:00 PM
So your great uncle, a marine that fought at Iwo Jima knows that the preident of the United States, who he never met, decided to leave the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor to get owned? I dont think so
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 04, 2007, 06:18:51 PM
sounds weird. but maybe your great uncle was a general or something. Was he Macarthur?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 08, 2007, 11:35:25 PM
no.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 09, 2007, 02:15:13 AM
too bad.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 09, 2007, 03:37:45 AM
Back on topic. Having a draft military service is wrong. It takes away our freedom. For those of you who live in the U.S., that is. Roosevelt purposely left our ships in Pearl Harbor so we would have a reason to enter the war. He issued the draft to give the poverty a way to earn money. Dont say, "Wheres your proof," cause somebody found a transmission warning us to get out.
Raptor Are you insane Rosivel knew nothing about the suorise atttack on pearl until after i happend read you historical refrences brfoe saying som thing ignorant rossivel is not gw bush
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 09, 2007, 04:55:20 AM
that is true. raptor has posted amny things that aren't true.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 09, 2007, 11:46:31 AM
Indeed he does and his points dont make sense. This makes his opinion look bad, but there is some possibility in it.


FDR wanted to get out of the depression. He hears of the suprise attack and decides that entering the war would jumpstart the economy. He didnt want to enter the war on a whim, that would hurt his reputation. So he decided to use this to make people want to enter the war and give them something to fight for.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Corey on August 09, 2007, 12:10:29 PM
Going to the aid of the allies is hardly going to war on a whim.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 09, 2007, 12:11:29 PM
Yes, but the American people did not yet want to enter the war.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 09, 2007, 06:07:34 PM
But he didnt need to have almost the entire Pacific Fleet decimated in order to enter the war, all that was needed was an attack, not a slaughter
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Nezill on August 09, 2007, 08:53:29 PM
I would preer compulsory because then we wouldn't jump to war at any chance we see.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 10, 2007, 02:05:18 AM
Yes, but the American people did not yet want to enter the war.

But if the Congress wouldn't have allowed the war then it would have been a big mistake.

And then I have to thank USA for one thing it did not do during WWII

God bless United States of America!
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 10, 2007, 10:04:46 AM
Yes, but the American people did not yet want to enter the war.
But if the Congress wouldn
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 10, 2007, 10:08:06 AM
yep. why should they have wanted to go to war on the other side of the globe?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 10, 2007, 10:55:56 AM
Indeed he does and his points dont make sense. This makes his opinion look bad, but there is some possibility in it.


FDR wanted to get out of the depression. He hears of the suprise attack and decides that entering the war would jumpstart the economy. He didnt want to enter the war on a whim, that would hurt his reputation. So he decided to use this to make people want to enter the war and give them something to fight for.

WHich is basicaly what i said, and i wouldnt be talking about being wrong on things, "The holocaust is a bunch of russian propoganda."
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 10, 2007, 11:20:27 AM
yep. so it is.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 10, 2007, 03:05:06 PM
I wasnt agreeing with you.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 11, 2007, 03:07:38 AM
I realized that. I ain't stupid you know.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 11, 2007, 03:08:07 AM
if you think the holocaust was propaganda from my country then pull your haeds out of you ass and see ther light
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 11, 2007, 11:54:31 AM
Your a Soviet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 11, 2007, 11:56:47 AM
A fucking communist liar! You can't believe anything any russian says. That has become very clear during years.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 11, 2007, 12:00:51 PM
My uncles family is russian, but it moved out of Russia during the Cold War.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Corey on August 11, 2007, 12:02:09 PM
He most definately lives in North America, not Russia.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 11, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
My uncles family is russian, but it moved out of Russia during the Cold War.

And did a good choice when he moved.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 12, 2007, 12:24:47 AM
For mother RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You yank lie every time you open yopur mouths and the hlouvaust happend i kind of fukion hard to explain the dissperriabce of thousd of peapole that THU GERMANS KILLED NOT MY PEAPOLE. The germans are evil. im russian now say one more thing that is ignorant uneducated and JUSTT fuking wrong about russia ill have this topic locked
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Tyrant on August 12, 2007, 11:06:04 AM
I think you should calm down and stop being confrontational, or the only thing that will be locked is your access to this site. Also take into account that I'm German, Arbiter is German, and you called every German evil, so you're not much better than anyone else here. Get back on topic everyone, and stop flaming nationalities.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Mandalore-the-Inquizitor on August 13, 2007, 03:34:42 PM
i apoligize tyrant i did not mean all germans are evil i ment the nazis so Sorry
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Adthrawn on August 13, 2007, 09:34:45 PM
Lets keep the flaming down a bit.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 15, 2007, 08:42:34 AM
yep let's do that. But the fact remains that russians killed more civilians and soldiers in concentrationcamps than germans.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Kratas on August 15, 2007, 11:08:34 AM
when was that ???
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 15, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
When Stalin was in charge
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 15, 2007, 02:09:19 PM
yep. he killed tens of millions of people during his reign. but does anyone mention that. No. Everybody just talks about jews and how they suffered.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 15, 2007, 03:36:52 PM
people talk about it, just not when discussing WW2 because they were on our side
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: sarcronis on August 15, 2007, 09:18:16 PM
Back on topic.  There is a WW2 thread.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Raptor on August 15, 2007, 11:29:48 PM
I think you should calm down and stop being confrontational, or the only thing that will be locked is your access to this site. Also take into account that I'm German, Arbiter is German, and you called every German evil, so you're not much better than anyone else here. Get back on topic everyone, and stop flaming nationalities.


Were you born in Germany?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 16, 2007, 01:07:50 AM
ahh Deutschland. Sprechen sie Deutsch?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Slornie on August 16, 2007, 04:10:33 AM
Also take into account that I'm German, Arbiter is German
You're both German ? Do you mean you were born in Germany, or that your parents/ancestors were German ?
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 16, 2007, 05:38:47 AM
if you count ancestors then I'm german too.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Slornie on August 16, 2007, 06:12:26 AM
Im approximately half English and half Scottish.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 16, 2007, 07:43:18 AM
scottish eh? I have german ancestory but still I can't speak desent german. you have easier. just spoke a bit weirdly and it sounds like scottish-english
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Corey on August 16, 2007, 12:54:54 PM
I'm mainly German, Russian and Italian but theres quite a few other ones in there too.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: sarcronis on August 16, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
Go German ancestors!
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Corey on August 16, 2007, 01:00:05 PM
Back on topic.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 16, 2007, 01:04:36 PM
aye aye skipper.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Slornie on August 16, 2007, 03:12:34 PM
Back on topic, course 373 aye :P
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: sarcronis on August 16, 2007, 04:48:50 PM
I think volunteer service in countries with large populations, because not everyone is cut out to be a soldier.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 17, 2007, 05:51:59 AM
true. but in countries that hasn't got so much population compulsory is better. Especially if their budget isn't big too. Like Finlands. It all depends on population.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 17, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
And the countries current situation, like in the cold war European countries needed a bigger military than now
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 18, 2007, 02:20:50 AM
yep. big armies are not longer neccessary. I mean it is unlikely that a big war like WWs happens again. Althought my name is Evil, I doubt anyone will start a large scale war in near future.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 18, 2007, 02:24:37 AM
Not with nukes around, the fighting happening will be aginst smaller countries, like Iraq and Samalia, and you dont need a huge army for that
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 18, 2007, 02:25:17 AM
And then there are all sorts of alliances like NATO and EU.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Scarecrow63 on August 18, 2007, 02:25:43 AM
And they can all put in little forces and make a big one
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: GrndAdmrlPellaeon on August 19, 2007, 06:40:15 PM
That is what was intended but thats not how it is.
Title: Re: Military service
Post by: Meyer on August 20, 2007, 08:01:36 AM
then who does it work.