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Posted by: Jamesvon
« on: February 14, 2024, 02:53:10 AM »

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Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:07 AM »

We had this discussion on Discord this morning he did.


I don’t read that stuff. I haven’t read any of the novels. I don’t know anything about that world. That’s a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions.” – George Lucas, from an interview in Starlog #337

The problem with this quote is that it runs counter to the existence of Coruscant, Aayla Secura, the double bladed light saber, the outlander, pod racing and the jedi code all of which Lucas directly adapted from the EU to HIS universe. He also has an interview where he states that as big as the story was his story was only one of many in the SW universe so he's contradicted himself more than a few times.
Posted by: GreyStar
« on: September 13, 2017, 08:08:50 AM »

Lucas made them non canon long before Disney did so they were forgotten long before Disney brought them back to life.
I wouldn't say discontinuing Legends and replacing it with Discount Original Trilogy really counts as "making them canon again." I kinda get your direction but, I doubt J.J. cares about Aftermath and such. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but I'm still rather dissapointed with Disney Canon, over all. Discounting the movies.
Posted by: Mr.Puerto
« on: September 13, 2017, 12:48:01 AM »

Not really, in fact Lucas collaborated with many authors and added in much of the EU elements to his films as he updated them. He didn't keep them separate.
We had this discussion on Discord this morning he did.


I don’t read that stuff. I haven’t read any of the novels. I don’t know anything about that world. That’s a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions.” – George Lucas, from an interview in Starlog #337
Posted by: Lord Xizer
« on: September 12, 2017, 11:39:39 PM »

Lucas made them non canon long before Disney did so they were forgotten long before Disney brought them back to life.

Not really, in fact Lucas collaborated with many authors and added in much of the EU elements to his films as he updated them. He didn't keep them separate.
Posted by: Mr.Puerto
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:21:36 PM »

Dunno if that isn't only due to Dave Filoni and Co. and we owe them big time for having them included - at all.
Lucas kept them separate and not acknowledged. I think Filoni and Kennedy included them and said they can exist, and they have huge respect for it
Posted by: TonPhanan
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:19:48 PM »

Lucas made them non canon long before Disney did so they were forgotten long before Disney brought them back to life.

Dunno if that isn't only due to Dave Filoni and Co. and we owe them big time for having them included - at all.
Posted by: Mr.Puerto
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:09:33 PM »

Legends, since I partially grew up with or liked too much the stories of Wraith Squadron, Isard, Thrawn, the Black Fleet and Kyle Katarn and Dash Rendar, which all seem to be forgotten and put in the trash. Granted, there were some weird and contradicting stories, but nothing as disrespectful as Disney did... well, I just dunno about the new canon, guess I have to see them finish the new trilogy first, though I liked the new Thrawn and Tarkin books.
Lucas made them non canon long before Disney did so they were forgotten long before Disney brought them back to life.
Posted by: TonPhanan
« on: September 12, 2017, 08:40:28 AM »

Legends, since I partially grew up with or liked too much the stories of Wraith Squadron, Isard, Thrawn, the Black Fleet and Kyle Katarn and Dash Rendar, which all seem to be forgotten and put in the trash. Granted, there were some weird and contradicting stories, but nothing as disrespectful as Disney did... well, I just dunno about the new canon, guess I have to see them finish the new trilogy first, though I liked the new Thrawn and Tarkin books.
Posted by: taupin121
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:40:05 AM »


It is indeed a Battlecruiser. If you watch the movie you can't think its length to be inferior to 2.5 km (and you can't hardly believe it's more than 4 km long). The movie and ILM give 3.2 km (and also EaW and ICW, but they're secondary sources) and I trust that more than a repeated error (like for the Executor !) due to the (good) old West End Games RPG guides but everybody is free to think what they want.
Posted by: DarthRevansRevenge
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:22:36 AM »

even looking at the Movie, it is a Large ship, but not a %#$@ing Battlecruiser, as the first Mon Cal Battlecruiser ship was the Mediator. even if i wasn't going for the 1445 meters limit i saw in the book, or the 1300 meters length on Wookieepdia(i looked again after i posted previously) i would only scale it up to 1800-1900 meters. Large? yes. Super Capital sized? NO
Posted by: Guderian
« on: September 06, 2017, 03:32:12 AM »

You need to read Apocalypse Endor. It's a comic that has a Stormtrooper telling a bar about his time on Endor in a very Vietnam like way but it's done in the spirit of parody, like when the Empire first lands the Ewoks come out with flowers to put in their blasters and the Stormtroopers yell out, "They're trying to jam our Blasters!" and start shooting then all hell breaks loose with the Eowks drumming and hunting them at night and guys going crazy. It's a pretty hilarious comic.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Apocalypse_Endor

That does sound awesome. I will definitly check it out thanks!
Posted by: taupin121
« on: September 06, 2017, 02:46:29 AM »


So ILM got it wrong too when they made the movie ? You know dozen, if not hundreds, of expanded universe sources quote the Executor as 8 km long but as it's not what is depicted in the movie, after years they finally decided to retcon it. They failed to do so for the Home One but it's easy watching the movie to understand that it is bigger than 2 km.
Posted by: DarthRevansRevenge
« on: September 05, 2017, 05:30:05 PM »

Nope. While disputed, a cross-sections book for movies 1-6 put Home One's length at 1445 meters, with 36 Turbolasers, 36 ion Cannons, 10 fighter squadrons, and mon cal tech. The Liberty is 1200 meters, and we all know the ISD's length. So, sorry, but Petroglyph got it wrong
Posted by: taupin121
« on: September 05, 2017, 09:53:26 AM »

FYI the Raddus is 3km, not Home one sized, but yeah, this completely sucks

Home One is 3.2 km. If you don't believe just play Empire at War (or watch the movie). I can even advice you a good mod with it : Imperial Civil War ;D

You need to read Apocalypse Endor. It's a comic that has a Stormtrooper telling a bar about his time on Endor in a very Vietnam like way but it's done in the spirit of parody, like when the Empire first lands the Ewoks come out with flowers to put in their blasters and the Stormtroopers yell out, "They're trying to jam our Blasters!" and start shooting then all hell breaks loose with the Eowks drumming and hunting them at night and guys going crazy. It's a pretty hilarious comic.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Apocalypse_Endor

Love it. Tales serie had really good stories.
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